Flagrant or Intentional?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by slow whistle

Just out of curiosity did you go personal or technical?

Did we ever get a definitive answer for this?

Fist to opponent's face: Personal (live ball contact)
Swear directly into opponent's face: Technical (live ball noncontact)
Throw ball and hit opponent in face: Technical (live ball non-contact)
Hold ball and hit opponent in face with ball?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Did we ever get a definitive answer for this?

Hold ball and hit opponent in face with ball?

Not definitively covered imo. Could be:
1) PC foul
2) intentional personal foul
3) flagrant personal foul
4) unsporting technical foul
5) intentional technical foul if it neutralizes a defender's position
6) flagrant technical foul

Or incidental contact.....

It all depends on whether you define "contact" as involving physical contact between players only or also contact between player/ball being held by an opponent.

My advice? Go with your heart!

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Did we ever get a definitive answer for this?

Throw ball and hit opponent in face: Technical (live ball non-contact)
Hold ball and hit opponent in face with ball?

I don't see why these two should be treated differently. The contact is ball to player in both.