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Clark Kent Wed Jan 13, 2010 01:10am

Techs before the game
 
At the 12 min mark in warm-ups A1 dunks the ball. Then 3 minutes late Team B dunks the ball. How do we administer it? Is it a double T and we start with the jump ball and just sit the coaches or would it be something else? Please include references.

JRutledge Wed Jan 13, 2010 01:15am

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 650883)
At the 12 min mark in warm-ups A1 dunks the ball. Then 3 minutes late Team B dunks the ball. How do we administer it? Is it a double T and we start with the jump ball and just sit the coaches or would it be something else? Please include references.

No they are not double Ts. These are separate acts that were not done to same opponents so it cannot be a double T. You administer them in the order that they took place and the last team that committed the act, their opponent shoots the FTs and you give the ball to the other team at the division line.

Peace

tjones1 Wed Jan 13, 2010 01:16am

Nope, doubles occur at approximately the same time. 4-19-8b

Two free throws for B, then two free throws for A. Team A gets the ball at the division line for throw-in and the arrow is set towards Team B's basket when the ball is at the disposal of Team A's thrower. Also, both coaches have lost their coaching box as these technicals are charged indirectly to them. Foul count for both teams is at 1.

grunewar Wed Jan 13, 2010 06:22am

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 650883)
At the 12 min mark in warm-ups A1 dunks the ball. Then 3 minutes late Team B dunks the ball. How do we administer it? Is it a double T and we start with the jump ball and just sit the coaches or would it be something else? Please include references.

Here's a link w/ discussion to an extremely similar situation.

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...tart-game.html

Nevadaref Wed Jan 13, 2010 06:44am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 650900)
Here's a link w/ discussion to an extremely similar situation.

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...tart-game.html

I was going to say, "I thought that we already had thread on this question this week." ;)

grunewar Wed Jan 13, 2010 07:04am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 650903)
I was going to say, "I thought that we already had thread on this question this week." ;)

And, far be it for me to correct you, but I would have said it was last week! :p

But, I knew I saw it recently too!

mbyron Wed Jan 13, 2010 07:38am

As Yogi said, "This is like déjà vu all over again!"

(My favorite part of that is the "like," which he did not use in the Valley-girl sense.)

Chess Ref Wed Jan 13, 2010 09:08am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 650911)
As Yogi said, "This is like déjà vu all over again!"

(My favorite part of that is the "like," which he did not use in the Valley-girl sense.)

Valley girls are cool, so is Yogi.

Adam Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:23am

I thought for a moment this was the previous thread. Is there a quiz somewhere with this question?

smginnis Wed Jan 13, 2010 03:05pm

As an extension to this, how do you notify the teams and the scorers table of the the call. I had this happen in a BJV game last week, and my partner and I were not sure how we should go about letting everyone know.

There was still 10 minutes on the clock, so we decided to wait until 3 - 4 minutes left before teams broke into huddles to let the coaches and scorers table know what had happened and that we would start the game with free throws.

smginnis Wed Jan 13, 2010 03:06pm

As an extension to this, how do you notify the teams and the scorers table of the the call? I had this happen in a BJV game last week, and my partner and I were not sure how we should go about letting everyone know.

There was still 10 minutes on the clock, so we decided to wait until 3 - 4 minutes left before teams broke into huddles to let the coaches and scorers table know what had happened and that we would start the game with free throws.

tjones1 Wed Jan 13, 2010 03:10pm

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Originally Posted by smginnis (Post 651174)
As an extension to this, how do you notify the teams and the scorers table of the the call. I had this happen in a BJV game last week, and my partner and I were not sure how we should go about letting everyone know.

There was still 10 minutes on the clock, so we decided to wait until 3 - 4 minutes left before teams broke into huddles to let the coaches and scorers table know what had happened and that we would start the game with free throws.

10.3.3 Situation C:
Fifteen minutes before the game is scheduled to start, team member A1 dunks. Two minutes later A2 dunks. RULING: A1 and A2 are both charged with a technical foul. In addition, the head coach is charged indirectly with a technical foul for each act. The two fouls are team fouls for purpose of reaching bonus. When dunking occurs during the pregame practice period the official notifies the team member and the head coach, but does not sound the whistle. If the game is played in a state which utilizes the optional coaching box, the coach should be informed that he/she has lost the privilege of using the coaching box for the entire game.

jdw3018 Wed Jan 13, 2010 03:11pm

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Originally Posted by smginnis (Post 651175)
As an extension to this, how do you notify the teams and the scorers table of the the call? I had this happen in a BJV game last week, and my partner and I were not sure how we should go about letting everyone know.

There was still 10 minutes on the clock, so we decided to wait until 3 - 4 minutes left before teams broke into huddles to let the coaches and scorers table know what had happened and that we would start the game with free throws.

If we've got a definite dunk pre-game, one of the crew is going to walk over and notify the coach immediately. That gives him the opportunity to get his players to knock it off before they earn him more indirect Ts.

We'll probably notify the book at that time as well, then have a quick discussion with the table right before the start of the game about how we're going to begin the contest.

grunewar Wed Jan 13, 2010 03:17pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 651180)
If we've got a definite dunk pre-game, one of the crew is going to walk over and notify the coach immediately. That gives him the opportunity to get his players to knock it off before they earn him more indirect Ts.

During a HS V Fall League, one of my P's called the player over after his pre-game dunk and told him to go tell the coach what he had just done and the results.....it was a long, slow walk across the floor for that player.

Adam Wed Jan 13, 2010 03:21pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 651186)
During a HS V Fall League, one of my P's called the player over after his pre-game dunk and told him to go tell the coach what he had just done and the results.....it was a long, slow walk across the floor for that player.

Now that's funny.


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