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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 11:43am
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I'll absolutely take time for someone to quickly tie their shoe if need be. Last thing I need is a parent or coach on me for not noticing an untied shoe and a player getting hurt.

If one player is tying, I'll have everyone check their shoes so we don't have to stop again at the next dead ball.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 11:59am
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I'll absolutely take time for someone to quickly tie their shoe if need be. Last thing I need is a parent or coach on me for not noticing an untied shoe and a player getting hurt.

If one player is tying, I'll have everyone check their shoes so we don't have to stop again at the next dead ball.
I absolutely won't take time. Ever. Well, maybe for 6 year-olds.

Making sure that shoes are tied isn't part of our officiating duties. That's solely up to the player and I could care less what coaches or parents think. And there's no rules backing to stop the game for a displaced shoe, as there is for displaced glasses.

Has anyone ever seen a college game stopped for an untied shoelace or a displaced shoe? I sureasheck haven't.

I have to disagree completely with anyone advocating stopping the game for that reason. If they want to waste a TO to put their shoe back on, fine with me. But I ain't giving them a free timeout.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:09pm
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I absolutely won't take time. Ever. Well, maybe for 6 year-olds.

Making sure that shoes are tied isn't part of our officiating duties. That's solely up to the player and I could care less what coaches or parents think. And there's no rules backing to stop the game for a displaced shoe, as there is for displaced glasses.

Has anyone ever seen a college game stopped for an untied shoelace or a displaced shoe? I sureasheck haven't.

I have to disagree completely with anyone advocating stopping the game for that reason. If they want to waste a TO to put their shoe back on, fine with me. But I ain't giving them a free timeout.
Stopping the game? I agree with JR

Delaying the resumption? I let them get the shoe tied, unless it becomes a problem, in which case I make them leave the game (only once -- when the player was trying to "ice" the FT shooter)
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:17pm
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Delaying the resumption? I let them get the shoe tied, unless it becomes a problem, in which case I make them leave the game (only once -- when the player was trying to "ice" the FT shooter)
Delaying the resumption? I agree with Bob J.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:24pm
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Delaying the resumption? I agree with Bob J.
That's what I meant by "taking time". My bad, should have worded that differently.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:32pm
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I still remember back in 6th grade cyo my friend's shoe kept coming untied. After about the fifth time the ref bent down and tied it. really funny
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:33pm
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That's what I meant by "taking time". My bad, should have worded that differently.
And my bad for misinterpreting your words also, I guess.

I won't stop the game for someone to tie or replace a shoe. I will hold up the game if time was already out for someone to do so though. That's what we train our officials to do and it's pretty much standard practice with the other associations in our general area afaik.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:37pm
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Had a guy last night get hit in his package as he was making an attempt. As he was still trying to remember how to breathe before his first free throw, I looked at his teammate and told him to tie both his shoes. He looked down and saw they were tied very tightly. Then he looked at his teammate and figured out why he needed to retie them.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:37pm
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And my bad for misinterpreting your words also, I guess.

I won't stop the game for someone to tie or replace a shoe. I will hold up the game if time was already out for someone to do so though. That's what we train our officials to do and it's pretty much standard practice with the other associations in our general area afaik.
That's consistent with what I do. I've never been told one way or the other, but it just seems like common sense to me.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:44pm
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Delaying the resumption? I agree with Bob J.
Good advice as to how to handle for us newer guys.
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