Points = fouls!

[CoachCER]

I think you have the right picture, and honestly, he created enough of a disturbance with refusing to leave the gym initially that I was surprised the game wasn't forfeited.
It was a competitive game and it was in the 4th, and my guess was these guys didn't want to let the actions of a loose cannon take anything away from the boys. This was a while back (longer than I initially thought - 2002), but I think some action was taken by the school against this coach. I am fairly certain he was not back the next year.
(Of course, I wasn't back either. Note to self: when coaching at a private Christian school, never, ever sit the minister's kid on the bench. Same for the principal's kid. Only coaching job I was ever fired from, and it was after taking the team to the semis of a 16-team league for the first time in school history.)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by CoachCER

I think you have the right picture, and honestly, he created enough of a disturbance with refusing to leave the gym initially that I was surprised the game wasn't forfeited.
It was a competitive game and it was in the 4th, and my guess was these guys didn't want to let the actions of a loose cannon take anything away from the boys. This was a while back (longer than I initially thought - 2002), but I think some action was taken by the school against this coach. I am fairly certain he was not back the next year.
(Of course, I wasn't back either. Note to self: when coaching at a private Christian school, never, ever sit the minister's kid on the bench. Same for the principal's kid. Only coaching job I was ever fired from, and it was after taking the team to the semis of a 16-team league for the first time in school history.)

LOL
Frankly, I can't imagine putting up with that from a HS varsity coach. MS, I'd call the forfeit and not lose any sleep.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by CoachCER

I think you have the right picture, and honestly, he created enough of a disturbance with refusing to leave the gym initially that I was surprised the game wasn't forfeited.

If an ejected coach tells you that he's not leaving, you never, ever argue with him. You immediately tell the timer to put up 60 seconds on the clock and start running it down. At the same time you tell the coach if he isn't on his way out the door when the clock runs out, the game will be forfeited. And that's the last conversation you have with that coach.

If the coach is still there when the clock runs out, you forfeit the game. Use the score in the book if the non-forfeiting team is ahead. If not, put it down as 2-0. Write all of the details on the back of the score sheet. And then write a complete and detailed report when you get home and send it to whomever the power-that-be is.

Been there, done that.

[CoachCER]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If an ejected coach tells you that he's not leaving, you never, ever argue with him. You immediately tell the timer to put up 60 seconds on the clock and start running it down. At the same time you tell the coach if he isn't on his way out the door when the clock runs out, the game will be forfeited. And that's the last conversation you have with that coach.

If the coach is still there when the clock runs out, you forfeit the game. Use the score in the book if the non-forfeiting team is ahead. If not, put it down as 2-0. Write all of the details on the back of the score sheet. And then write a complete and detailed report when you get home and send it to whomever the power-that-be is.

Been there, done that.

Other than taking too long to start the 60-second clock, that is what was done, at least until he appeared on the balcony. It did seem they took more flack from this guy than they should have, for whatever reason. I have actually two wins in my career from coaches refusing to leave after the second T, though to be fair I was winning late in both games.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If an ejected coach tells you that he's not leaving, you never, ever argue with him. You immediately tell the timer to put up 60 seconds on the clock and start running it down. At the same time you tell the coach if he isn't on his way out the door when the clock runs out, the game will be forfeited. And that's the last conversation you have with that coach.

If the coach is still there when the clock runs out, you forfeit the game. Use the score in the book if the non-forfeiting team is ahead. If not, put it down as 2-0. Write all of the details on the back of the score sheet. And then write a complete and detailed report when you get home and send it to whomever the power-that-be is.

Been there, done that.

Sadly, so have I - on a couple of occasions. It's sometimes just part of the job we have to do.

Hey Mark - don't feel bad. I had a 1A GV game 1st week of the season - at the end of the 1st half, both teams had more team fouls on the board than points......

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If an ejected coach tells you that he's not leaving, you never, ever argue with him.

For the past few years, here in Oregon, we have a law that states if a sports official ejects someone (anyone) from the premises and they refuse to leave, they can be arrested and charged with trespassing.

Also, assault on a sports official is a Class A misdemeanor in our state and will be prosecuted. I testified on behalf of this bill a few years ago in a state Senate committee hearing.

I keep copies of each law in my bag.