From Ref to Evaluator

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by j51969

Good post, I don't really agree with the highlighted IMO

The image you project and how you make yourself look on the court can help you in getting over with fans. I realize that it isn't our ultimate goal, but it does help if they think you're legitimate. Good mechanics, selling calls, etc. help with that IMO.

[bbcof83]

Thanks for the post, iref4him. It's nice to get a glimpse into the life of an evaluator. And I'm glad you're able to share your experience in an effort to help others.

Out of curiosity... in your experience, what is the best seat in a gym to observe from?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bbcof83

Thanks for the post, iref4him. It's nice to get a glimpse into the life of an evaluator. And I'm glad you're able to share your experience in an effort to help others.

Out of curiosity... in your experience, what is the best seat in a gym to observe from?

Sorry, that seat is taken by the assistant coach.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Sorry, that seat is taken by the assistant coach.

And we all know they are EXCELLENT evaluators of officials!

iref4him - hope you get better and make it back onto the court!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bbcof83

Out of curiosity... in your experience, what is the best seat in a gym to observe from?

One where the officials being evaluated can't see you and don't know that you're in the gym....

JMO......

[iref4him]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

One where the officials being evaluated can't see you and don't know that you're in the gym....

JMO......

It's really interesting to notice. When they know I am there they have a tendency to work or try harder. When I am there unnoticed, there has been some who go into cruise or not work as hard.

[j51969]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

One where the officials being evaluated can't see you and don't know that you're in the gym....

JMO......

Your also the only one not screaming how horrible of a job they are doing. Maybe acting like a fan boy will help to mask your presence.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

One where the officials being evaluated can't see you and don't know that you're in the gym....

JMO......

The sweater vest always blows their cover.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

One where the officials being evaluated can't see you and don't know that you're in the gym....

JMO......

I can certainly appreciate your point of view on this. One of the surprising "skills" I had to acquire early on was the ability to not care that an evaluator was present. If I started thinking about it, it began to mess with my head in lots of ways.

One dilemma I have not resolved is whether to tell my partner when I notice an evaluator. On the one hand, he may appreciate the heads up so he can be on his toes. On the other hand, it may just tank him (which would probably be a useful learning experience for him in the long run, but would make the game more difficult in the short run).

Anybody have a good answer to this dilemma?

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I can certainly appreciate your point of view on this. One of the surprising "skills" I had to acquire early on was the ability to not care that an evaluator was present. If I started thinking about it, it began to mess with my head in lots of ways.

One dilemma I have not resolved is whether to tell my partner when I notice an evaluator. On the one hand, he may appreciate the heads up so he can be on his toes. On the other hand, it may just tank him (which would probably be a useful learning experience for him in the long run, but would make the game more difficult in the short run).

Anybody have a good answer to this dilemma?

I would go in the tank alot faster if you told me you just spotted Pam Anderson as opposed to my evaluator.

[tjones1]

iref,

I'm glad you are recovering and I hope you can return to the floor as soon as possible! However, I think it's great that you are able to stay connected to the game in your off time and in doing so you're helping other officials get better!

[iref4him]

Originally Posted by tjones1

iref,

I'm glad you are recovering and I hope you can return to the floor as soon as possible! However, I think it's great that you are able to stay connected to the game in your off time and in doing so you're helping other officials get better!

thank you

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

I would go in the tank alot faster if you told me you just spotted Pam Anderson as opposed to my evaluator.

Where? Where!?!

[iref4him]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I can certainly appreciate your point of view on this. One of the surprising "skills" I had to acquire early on was the ability to not care that an evaluator was present. If I started thinking about it, it began to mess with my head in lots of ways.

One dilemma I have not resolved is whether to tell my partner when I notice an evaluator. On the one hand, he may appreciate the heads up so he can be on his toes. On the other hand, it may just tank him (which would probably be a useful learning experience for him in the long run, but would make the game more difficult in the short run).

Anybody have a good answer to this dilemma?

As an evaluator this year, I can only tell you what I have been told at the camps I have been to and what i tell others. "You are being evaluated every night, formally or informally, direct or indirectly. You never know who is in the stands - the head coach from another school, college commissionor come to watch his or her nephew or niece (son/daughter), one of the top officials in the association. Also, every game, or at least that I can tell, someone is video taping the game. Mostly the managers in the high school games. The coach usually reviews them. You will be evaluated. Lastly, your partner is evaluating you as a partner."