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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 06:20pm
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I like coaches who stay in the coaching box.
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 10:13pm
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I like coaches who stay in the coaching box.
Fair enough, but I also like partners who tell me why they just called the T.
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 10:47pm
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Fair enough, but I also like partners who tell me why they just called the T.
Why? You really don't need to know the reason. The only information that you need is who it was charged against. Your responsibility is to support your partner by administering the penalty, not explaining the call.
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 10:59pm
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Coach, it is not an obligation of an official to give you an explanation for everything that happens. Explanations come because you are being a nice guy at the moment or you are not the person that got the T. I am not going to explain anything to you if you have crossed a line. The next thing I say to you is going to lead to a debate and I would not like to throw you out of the game.

If you do not know what you got T'd for, then you either are not paying attention or trying to be a jerk to the official. Explanations are a courtesy, not obligation.

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Old Sat Jan 02, 2010, 01:24am
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Coach, it is not an obligation of an official to give you an explanation for everything that happens. Explanations come because you are being a nice guy at the moment or you are not the person that got the T. I am not going to explain anything to you if you have crossed a line. The next thing I say to you is going to lead to a debate and I would not like to throw you out of the game.

If you do not know what you got T'd for, then you either are not paying attention or trying to be a jerk to the official. Explanations are a courtesy, not obligation.

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umm, WRONG!
If I as a coach didn't hear what the T was for, or who it is on, I need to know! I don't care what the dam rule book says as farf as an obligation. Common sense and a brain that functions says it's stoopid to not inform me simply because it's not required. There is at the very least an ethical obligation to inform me so that I have a frikin clue what it is that is not to be repeated! Not paying attention, or trying to be a jerk are but 2 plausible explanations, but certainly not the entire list.
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Old Sat Jan 02, 2010, 01:31am
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umm, WRONG!
If I as a coach didn't hear what the T was for, or who it is on, I need to know! I don't care what the dam rule book says as farf as an obligation. Common sense and a brain that functions says it's stoopid to not inform me simply because it's not required. There is at the very least an ethical obligation to inform me so that I have a frikin clue what it is that is not to be repeated! Not paying attention, or trying to be a jerk are but 2 plausible explanations, but certainly not the entire list.
Can you show me anywhere in any book where it is an obligation to tell a coach anything about a T? Now remember, these fouls are reported to the table. So I will be waiting for your very specific reference swiftly.

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Old Sat Jan 02, 2010, 04:03am
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umm, WRONG!
If I as a coach didn't hear what the T was for, or who it is on, I need to know! I don't care what the dam rule book says as farf as an obligation. Common sense and a brain that functions says it's stoopid to not inform me simply because it's not required. There is at the very least an ethical obligation to inform me so that I have a frikin clue what it is that is not to be repeated! Not paying attention, or trying to be a jerk are but 2 plausible explanations, but certainly not the entire list.
Coach, if you were to respond to me on the floor like you responded to JRut in this thread, then you already KNOW why you were T'ed up. Whether you like it or not, I'm not coming across the floor to give you an explanation, just so you can deny doing anything and start an argument.

If my partner hands you the T and you ask me what he did, my reply is simple. "Coach, I don't know why you got a T. All I know is you have to sit."

The best thing you can do at that point is sit down.
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Old Sat Jan 02, 2010, 05:32am
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Coach, if you were to respond to me on the floor like you responded to JRut in this thread, then you already KNOW why you were T'ed up. Whether you like it or not, I'm not coming across the floor to give you an explanation, just so you can deny doing anything and start an argument.

If my partner hands you the T and you ask me what he did, my reply is simple. "Coach, I don't know why you got a T. All I know is you have to sit."

The best thing you can do at that point is sit down.
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 11:03pm
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Fair enough, but I also like partners who tell me why they just called the T.
Why? So you can tell the coach? I honestly do not care what a coach is T'd for. That is between him and my partner. I am there to support my partner and to relay proper information like "You have to sit down now." I would rather stay out of the details as much as possible.

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I guess around here it's standard to inform your partners on a call like this. Does the coach have a "right" to know why he got rung? Probably not. Is it good practice around here to tell him? Yep.
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Old Fri Jan 01, 2010, 11:23pm
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I guess around here it's standard to inform your partners on a call like this. Does the coach have a "right" to know why he got rung? Probably not. Is it good practice around here to tell him? Yep.
Well in most cases I already know why a coach was given a T. And players are usually rather obvious too, but the words might be in question. But knowing before we administer is not an obligation and I have never heard anyone suggest that kind of information be shared. Usually it is discussed in detail after the game, but not when it happens. All I want to know is who it was on and where we are going next. The details should not be that important. As if a coach said or did something inappropriate, I usually figured it out already. Just like my partner did with me a few days ago.

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