Coaches comments

[just another ref]

Out of position is a really broad term. It would interesting to hear exactly what he means by out of position.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Out of position is a really broad term. It would interesting to hear exactly what he means by out of position.

My sense from my friend was when a ref is straightlined or is really 'reaching' or as we like to say poaching and it's a guess call. The coach said he can live with an official not seeing the play, but don't compound it by guessing.

Fair enough.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Out of position is a really broad term. It would interesting to hear exactly what he means by out of position.

Usually it means that he didn't agree with your call.

Coachs don't watch the officials when play is going on. They watch their team and their opponents, just like they're supposed to. The only time they notice us is when we blow a whistle or they think we should be blowing a whistle. I doubt very much that most coaches actually know what position we should be in relative to ball location.

As for the ignoring part, coaches do deserve a (short) answer to a question imo. What they don't deserve is a long discussion holding up play or an argument about a call or non-call.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Usually it means that he didn't agree with your call.

He keeps smiling. Kinda creepy.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Coaches don't watch the officials when play is going on. They watch their team and their opponents, just like they're supposed to. The only time they notice us is when we blow a whistle or they think we should be blowing a whistle.

I coached a middle school team for over twenty-five years, including twenty years in which I both coached, and officiated. What Jurassic Referee pointed out is 100% true. Unless a coach has a second head, or a second pair of eyes, he can't watch his team, his opponents, the scoreboard, his bench, and the officials. It just ain't possible. Something has to be ignored, and like Jurassic Referee said, it's usually the officials, unless the coach disagrees with their calls, and then they get a lot of attention, in my case, some very polite, respectful questions, yeah, sure, that's it, some very polite, respectful questions, yeah, that sounds good.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Usually it means that he didn't agree with your call.

Coachs don't watch the officials when play is going on. They watch their team and their opponents, just like they're supposed to. The only time they notice us is when we blow a whistle or they think we should be blowing a whistle. I doubt very much that most coaches actually know what position we should be in relative to ball location.

As for the ignoring part, coaches do deserve a (short) answer to a question imo. What they don't deserve is a long discussion holding up play or an argument about a call or non-call.

While for the most part I agree, what coaches will notice about officials is when they are lazy/don't hustle/can't physically get it done. Frankly, it's also one of my pet peeves.

That said, "out of position" may mean an official further away making a call (even if it happens to be his call).