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Old Sun Dec 27, 2009, 01:27am
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1. You seem to have plenty of time.

2. None of this seems to be anything that is the responsibility of officials.

3. A lot of it sounds like wishful thinking to me.
If this isn't the responsibility of the officials, then why is this listed in the officials' manual?

It does sound like a lot of wishful thinking.
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Old Sun Dec 27, 2009, 01:42am
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If this isn't the responsibility of the officials, then why is this listed in the officials' manual?
Think a little bit.

Do the officials that work games at your school choose a student to act as host while they're at your school?

Do the officials choose the table crew?

Do the officials come to your school prior to the game and provide training for the table crew?

Take another look and tell us if you think those are school issues or officials' issues. It's a grocery list of things that your school AD should consider, things he should take care of before the officials ever arrive at your school.
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Old Sun Dec 27, 2009, 02:10am
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Think a little bit.

Do the officials that work games at your school choose a student to act as host while they're at your school?

Do the officials choose the table crew?

Do the officials come to your school prior to the game and provide training for the table crew?

Take another look and tell us if you think those are school issues or officials' issues. It's a grocery list of things that your school AD should consider, things he should take care of before the officials ever arrive at your school.
Very true, considering I haven't seen any of the ideas listed being done.
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Old Sun Dec 27, 2009, 05:04am
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Very true, considering I haven't seen any of the ideas listed being done.
There you have it. You are ahead of your peers (some).

I would like to suggest you bring this up to your game managemenst the next time you perform your duties
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Old Sun Dec 27, 2009, 06:30am
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There you have it. You are ahead of your peers (some).

I would like to suggest you bring this up to your game managemenst the next time you perform your duties
Actually when I went in & discussed the basketball season with the AD, before the season, I did mention to him that the person doing Varsity Scoreboard/Timer was a bit out of date concerning the rules/regulations they were following.

The Varsity timer still has a slight issue with sounding the buzzer at the correct time during time-outs & intermissions, but that is being worked out.
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Old Sun Dec 27, 2009, 07:18am
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Actually when I went in & discussed the basketball season with the AD, before the season, I did mention to him that the person doing Varsity Scoreboard/Timer was a bit out of date concerning the rules/regulations they were following.

The Varsity timer still has a slight issue with sounding the buzzer at the correct time during time-outs & intermissions, but that is being worked out.

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Old Sun Dec 27, 2009, 06:26am
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Think a little bit.

1: Do the officials that work games at your school choose a student to act as host while they're at your school?

2: Do the officials choose the table crew?

3: Do the officials come to your school prior to the game and provide training for the table crew?

Take another look and tell us if you think those are school issues or officials' issues. It's a grocery list of things that your school AD should consider, things he should take care of before the officials ever arrive at your school.
1: According to the passage: "Designate a capable student manager to act as host to the officials. The host should meet them at the door, escort them to the dressing room(s) & see that they are provided with towels & soap. The host may also accompany the officials to the floor & will take care of their jackets & be responsible for the game ball between halves. The host management should provide personnel to wipe the floor & maintain proper floor conditions as requested by the officials." --The way it is written this is a responsibility of the host school's AD or Designated personnel to do this. I have not seen this done. For the jackets, the officials just hand their jackets to the table before game, & at halftime take jackets back to their designated locker room.

2: The scoreboard operator/timer is normally designated depending on who's available with the training before the officials arrive. Since we now have shot clock for both boys' & girls' games, that person is normally designated before the officials arrive (even if they have no previous training). The scorebook(s) is normally whomever the coach chooses.

3: Before the game starts, the officials do approach the table & ask everyone if they have any questions. They also clarify the start/stop clock signals.

I was just curious as to why this passage was written in the Officials' Manual, as like you stated, this is more the responsibility of the school's AD or designated personnel.
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