Pages 83-85 of the NFHS Basketball Officials' Manual

[just another ref]

Perhaps you could give us a brief summary, and answers will be forthcoming.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Perhaps you could give us a brief summary, and answers will be forthcoming.

Well it includes a section on how to select Table Personnel, How the Table Personnel are supposed to be trained, & how the local game management should handle the courtesy behind having the officals at the game.

Some of the recommendations for game management towards officials includes:
-Having a student representative act as a host to the officials, making sure the officials' needs are taken care.
-Make sure that all schools involved approve of the officiating crew.
-What's expected of the conditions of the facilty.

Some of the recommendations for selecting of Table Personnel includes:
-Everyone at the table be at least 21-22 years of age (based on how I'm reading the entry).
-Table personnel must have some sort of experience with basketball (Coaching, playing, or officiating).
-It's recommended that those selected remain neutral throughout the duration of their duties.

Recommendations for the training of Table Personnel includes:
-Providing a copy of the rule book, case book, & other materials availlable so that there is an understanding of the rules.
-Request/insist that the table personnel attend one of the state-sponsored rules interpretation meetings, & if possible at least one meeting of the local officals' association/group.
-Before the 1st game of the season, have the table personnel work through some intrasquad scrimmage games using real game conditions.
-Observe & evaluate the table personnel on their performance.

I would copy the entire entry word-for-word, but it'd take me about 20-30 minutes to type it all down on here.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Well it includes a section on how to select Table Personnel, How the Table Personnel are supposed to be trained, & how the local game management should handle the courtesy behind having the officals at the game.

Some of the recommendations for game management towards officials includes:
-Having a student representative act as a host to the officials, making sure the officials' needs are taken care.
-Make sure that all schools involved approve of the officiating crew.
-What's expected of the conditions of the facilty.

Some of the recommendations for selecting of Table Personnel includes:
-Everyone at the table be at least 21-22 years of age (based on how I'm reading the entry).
-Table personnel must have some sort of experience with basketball (Coaching, playing, or officiating).
-It's recommended that those selected remain neutral throughout the duration of their duties.

Recommendations for the training of Table Personnel includes:
-Providing a copy of the rule book, case book, & other materials availlable so that there is an understanding of the rules.
-Request/insist that the table personnel attend one of the state-sponsored rules interpretation meetings, & if possible at least one meeting of the local officals' association/group.
-Before the 1st game of the season, have the table personnel work through some intrasquad scrimmage games using real game conditions.
-Observe & evaluate the table personnel on their performance.

I would copy the entire entry word-for-word, but it'd take me about 20-30 minutes to type it all down on here.

1. You seem to have plenty of time.

2. None of this seems to be anything that is the responsibility of officials.

3. A lot of it sounds like wishful thinking to me.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

1. You seem to have plenty of time.

2. None of this seems to be anything that is the responsibility of officials.

3. A lot of it sounds like wishful thinking to me.

If this isn't the responsibility of the officials, then why is this listed in the officials' manual?

It does sound like a lot of wishful thinking.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by chseagle

If this isn't the responsibility of the officials, then why is this listed in the officials' manual?

Think a little bit.

Do the officials that work games at your school choose a student to act as host while they're at your school?

Do the officials choose the table crew?

Do the officials come to your school prior to the game and provide training for the table crew?

Take another look and tell us if you think those are school issues or officials' issues. It's a grocery list of things that your school AD should consider, things he should take care of before the officials ever arrive at your school.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Think a little bit.

Do the officials that work games at your school choose a student to act as host while they're at your school?

Do the officials choose the table crew?

Do the officials come to your school prior to the game and provide training for the table crew?

Take another look and tell us if you think those are school issues or officials' issues. It's a grocery list of things that your school AD should consider, things he should take care of before the officials ever arrive at your school.

Very true, considering I haven't seen any of the ideas listed being done.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Very true, considering I haven't seen any of the ideas listed being done.

There you have it. You are ahead of your peers (some).

I would like to suggest you bring this up to your game managemenst the next time you perform your duties

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Think a little bit.

1: Do the officials that work games at your school choose a student to act as host while they're at your school?

2: Do the officials choose the table crew?

3: Do the officials come to your school prior to the game and provide training for the table crew?

Take another look and tell us if you think those are school issues or officials' issues. It's a grocery list of things that your school AD should consider, things he should take care of before the officials ever arrive at your school.

1: According to the passage: "Designate a capable student manager to act as host to the officials. The host should meet them at the door, escort them to the dressing room(s) & see that they are provided with towels & soap. The host may also accompany the officials to the floor & will take care of their jackets & be responsible for the game ball between halves. The host management should provide personnel to wipe the floor & maintain proper floor conditions as requested by the officials." --The way it is written this is a responsibility of the host school's AD or Designated personnel to do this. I have not seen this done. For the jackets, the officials just hand their jackets to the table before game, & at halftime take jackets back to their designated locker room.

2: The scoreboard operator/timer is normally designated depending on who's available with the training before the officials arrive. Since we now have shot clock for both boys' & girls' games, that person is normally designated before the officials arrive (even if they have no previous training). The scorebook(s) is normally whomever the coach chooses.

3: Before the game starts, the officials do approach the table & ask everyone if they have any questions. They also clarify the start/stop clock signals.

I was just curious as to why this passage was written in the Officials' Manual, as like you stated, this is more the responsibility of the school's AD or designated personnel.