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Rich Wed Dec 23, 2009 09:15am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 645073)
I took his comment to mean that by the time you get both teams back out on the floor, including the HC who often doesn't come back out at the same time as the team, sometimes it's too late to get the meeting in. But perhaps Ignats' C/C meeting is just really really long? :D

You mean like this?

"We'll call you blue and you white. Play the black line all around. Keep your hands off and stop at the whistle. Make sure you get out of the lane as 3-seconds is a point of emphasis. Remember to have......."

and I can't remember the rest cause the captains and I have all fallen asleep by this point.

The point of doing captains at 12 is so I can be at the table by 11 to make sure the book is ready.

Back In The Saddle Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:10am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 645086)
You mean like this?

"We'll call you blue and you white. Play the black line all around. Keep your hands off and stop at the whistle. Make sure you get out of the lane as 3-seconds is a point of emphasis. Remember to have......."

and I can't remember the rest cause the captains and I have all fallen asleep by this point.

The point of doing captains at 12 is so I can be at the table by 11 to make sure the book is ready.

I'm sorry. I fell asleep partway through your second paragraph. Perhaps I should record one of these interminably long C/C speeches to help with my occasional insomnia :D

Raymond Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:22am

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Originally Posted by Ignats75 (Post 645034)
I always do catains at 12. too many teams go back into their lockerroom and then we get caught short for time pregame.

Last night one of the teams went back to the locker room before the 12:00 minute mark. I went to the table at 10:00 and official scorekeeper (neutral site) informs me the visiting team didn't mark its starters. No problem; ask coach to supply starters and he does so right away. Go back to my pre-game position. At around the 2:30 mark one of my partners reminds me we haven't done the captains yet. :eek: Sh!t, I had forgot all about that. Grab the captains real quick. Luckily my captains meetings only last about 20 seconds, including all the hand-shaking/fist pounding.

Rich Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:23am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 645113)
I'm sorry. I fell asleep partway through your second paragraph. Perhaps I should record one of these interminably long C/C speeches to help with my occasional insomnia :D

I rarely work with people other than my regulars (a group of 2-3) but when I do and the captain's meeting starts like that I know it's going to be a long night.

representing Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:28am

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Originally Posted by Ignats75 (Post 645034)
I always do catains at 12. too many teams go back into their lockerroom and then we get caught short for time pregame.

Wow, I need to get out more. No team I've ever officiated went back into the locker-room after coming out onto the court around 15 minutes to go. I've never seen that done in this area, only in college games have I seen it done. So I see why some may do captains at 12 minutes. Here, once teams are out on the court, they pretty much stay out there so we can do captains whenever.

Rich Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:42am

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 645119)
Wow, I need to get out more. No team I've ever officiated went back into the locker-room after coming out onto the court around 15 minutes to go. I've never seen that done in this area, only in college games have I seen it done. So I see why some may do captains at 12 minutes. Here, once teams are out on the court, they pretty much stay out there so we can do captains whenever.

Just about all the teams here go in. If both teams go in, we'll go in a side hall and stretch -- no reason to stand and observe an empty court.

RookieDude Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:55am

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Originally Posted by Spence (Post 644853)
What is the procedure for starting the game with a T?

I have a general rule of thumb...if I don't know how to administer something...I do not call it.

I would rather MISS something...than CALL something and get it wrong in the way I administered it or that it wasn't even supported by rule.

(Moral of story: Dive into the books and know how to administer what you call.)

Also...around here we pre-game:

15...12...10...2

Get on the court by 15,
Get captains at 12,
Check book before 10 (R goes right to table after captains meeting)
Meet coaches at 2:00 mark...visiting coach first.

Kelvin green Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:44am

Wehere I am from the coaches are required to be at the captains meeting. They verify players legally equipped at that point and hear the sportsmanship speech.

Spence Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:45pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 645135)
I have a general rule of thumb...if I don't know how to administer something...I do not call it.

I would rather MISS something...than CALL something and get it wrong in the way I administered it or that it wasn't even supported by rule.

(Moral of story: Dive into the books and know how to administer what you call.)

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I think I administered it properly in regards to noting it in the book, noting the team foul, talking to both coaches. My question is that once its time to start the game, do I blow my whistle to indicate the T or do I simply get the shooter, shoot the shots, and then go to the throw-in?

jdw3018 Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:48pm

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Originally Posted by Spence (Post 645221)
I think I administered it properly in regards to noting it in the book, noting the team foul, talking to both coaches. My question is that once its time to start the game, do I blow my whistle to indicate the T or do I simply get the shooter, shoot the shots, and then go to the throw-in?

No need to blow the whistle. Table knows, coaches know, just blow the whistle (to indicate the game is starting) and administer the free throws.

bob jenkins Wed Dec 23, 2009 03:35pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 645225)
just blow the whistle (to indicate the game is starting)

No need for that, either.

jdw3018 Wed Dec 23, 2009 03:44pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 645299)
No need for that, either.

Really? I haven't looked it up, but why would a FT at the start of the game be different than a FT after a timeout or intermission? We're supposed to give a whistle there as well (though many of us don't).

Adam Wed Dec 23, 2009 03:58pm

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 645307)
Really? I haven't looked it up, but why would a FT at the start of the game be different than a FT after a timeout or intermission? We're supposed to give a whistle there as well (though many of us don't).

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