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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 01:22am
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Did they get it right? AZ/Lipscomb

Lipscomb 82, Arizona 83 OT




TUCSON, Ariz. -- Nic Wise hit a 3-pointer with 0.1 second left in overtime Monday to give Arizona an 83-82 victory over Lipscomb.
After Lipscomb's Adnan Hodzic missed the second of two free throws to make it 82-80 with 4.7 seconds left, Arizona got the rebound and scrambled downcourt for a final shot. Wise threw up his desperation shot just as the buzzer sounded. It hit nothing but net.Wise finished with 26 points for the Wildcats (5-5), who are 2-1 in overtime games this season.Hodzic had 34 points for Lipscomb (4-7).The Bison led most of the game before UA's Derrick Williams scored off an offensive rebound to tie it at 52.Lipscomb's Brian Wright hit a 3-pointer with 1.5 seconds left after Jordan Burgason missed a 3-pointer with 3 seconds left to tie it at 69 and send it into overtime.
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Did anyone else see the finish of this game?

I'm convinced that this try was not released in time. It will be nice to have another look at it when the video hits ESPN and youtube. I can't understand why the coutside monitors are so dang small. On a play as close as this, that has to make it extra difficult for the officials.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 01:28am
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Lipscomb 82, Arizona 83 OT




TUCSON, Ariz. -- Nic Wise hit a 3-pointer with 0.1 second left in overtime Monday to give Arizona an 83-82 victory over Lipscomb.
After Lipscomb's Adnan Hodzic missed the second of two free throws to make it 82-80 with 4.7 seconds left, Arizona got the rebound and scrambled downcourt for a final shot. Wise threw up his desperation shot just as the buzzer sounded. It hit nothing but net.Wise finished with 26 points for the Wildcats (5-5), who are 2-1 in overtime games this season.Hodzic had 34 points for Lipscomb (4-7).The Bison led most of the game before UA's Derrick Williams scored off an offensive rebound to tie it at 52.Lipscomb's Brian Wright hit a 3-pointer with 1.5 seconds left after Jordan Burgason missed a 3-pointer with 3 seconds left to tie it at 69 and send it into overtime.
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Did anyone else see the finish of this game?

I'm convinced that this try was not released in time. It will be nice to have another look at it when the video hits ESPN and youtube. I can't understand why the coutside monitors are so dang small. On a play as close as this, that has to make it extra difficult for the officials.
Did you find a video of it anywhere? I'd have to see it, I didn't actually watch the game on TV
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 08:58am
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ESPN showed this play this morning.
The 'Red light' behind the backbosrd was lit before the ball was released, but the game clock showed .1 when the ball was released. They counted the basket. Oh it was also a 3 point shot. AZ wins by 1 point.
If we had replay in Missouri for a State championship game, then per NFHS rules we would use the red light. No Basket.
What does NCAA rules say?
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 09:04am
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ESPN showed this play this morning.
The 'Red light' behind the backbosrd was lit before the ball was released, but the game clock showed .1 when the ball was released. They counted the basket. Oh it was also a 3 point shot. AZ wins by 1 point.
If we had replay in Missouri for a State championship game, then per NFHS rules we would use the red light. No Basket.
What does NCAA rules say?
NCAA rule 2-13.
Art. 3. When there is a reading of zeros on the game clock and after making a call on the playing court, the officials shall use such available equipment in the following situations:
a. Determine whether a try for field goal entering the basket was released before the reading of zeros on the game clock at the end of the first half, or at the end of the second half/extra period only when necessary to determine the outcome of a game. (See Rule 5-7.2.b.) When it is determined that the try for goal was successful, the official is permitted to put the exact time back on the game clock as to when the ball passed through the net.
Art. 4. In games with a 10th-of-a-second game clock display and where an official courtside monitor is used, the reading of zeros on the game clock is to be used to determine whether a try for goal, a shot-clock violation or a foul occurred before or after the expiration of time in any period. When the game clock is not visible, the officials shall verify the original call with the use of the red/LED light(s). When the red/LED light(s) are not visible, the sounding of the game-clock horn shall be utilized. When definitive information is unattainable with the use of the monitor, the original call stands.

NCAA rule 5-7.
Art. 2. Each period shall end when the red light or LED lights have become activated. When the light fails to operate or is not visible, each period shall end with the sounding of the game-clock horn.
a. In games when the red light is not present, the game-clock horn shall terminate players’ activity.
b. In games with a 10th-of-a-second game clock display and where an official courtside monitor is used, the reading of zeros on the game clock is to be used to determine whether a try for goal occurred before or after the expiration of time in any period. When the game clock is not visible, the officials shall verify the original call with the use of the red/LED light(s). When the red/LED light(s) are not visible, the sounding of the game-clock horn shall be utilized. When definitive information is unattainable with the use of the monitor, the original call stands.
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Saw it on ESPN, the game clock (above the board) said 0.0, and the light had gone on. The clock display on the monitor, however, showed 0.1 when he released. I'm guessing they missed this due to the small monitor size.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 11:09am
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Here it is.

YouTube - Lipscomb getting game taken away from them against Arizona, 12/21/09
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 03:25pm
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Saw it on ESPN, the game clock (above the board) said 0.0, and the light had gone on. The clock display on the monitor, however, showed 0.1 when he released. I'm guessing they missed this due to the small monitor size.
What makes me scratch my head is... How can the game clock (above the board) said 0.0, and the clock display on the monitor, show 0.1 when he released.
Two different clock, showing two different times at the same time.
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