Spacing for defense?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by gslefeb

Can the official force A1 and A2 to separate to allow B2 into the stack?

It depends. Are the four Team A players parallel, or perpendicular, to the boundary, and how close are they to said boundary?

Now before you answer, let me get out my sine, cosine, and tangent tables. Or better yet, here's a chance for me to use the new slide rule that I bought myself for Christmas. That's right, you heard me, it's brand new. They are still making them.

[just another ref]

See 7-6-5

[grunewar]

BillyMac - I carry a lot of stuff with me to games.....but these two items are not among them!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

See 7-6-5

Teammates shall not occupy adjacent positions which are parallel
to and within 3 feet of the boundary line if an opponent desires one of the
positions.

[Adam]

Most stack plays are perpendicular to the OOB line, so it's legal. Whoever gets there first gets the spot. I've also seen the defense actually get there first and the offense try to move them. Either way, first to the spot gets it.

[representing]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Teammates shall not occupy adjacent positions which are parallel
to and within 3 feet of the boundary line if an opponent desires one of the
positions.

So if A1 is taking the ball out of bounds and A2-A5 are standing shoulder to shoulder as per above (parallel to and within 3 feet of OOB line) and B1 wants to get in between A2 and A3, you have to let them? When does this have to take place, before you give the ball to A1?

EDIT: another question... what if B1 and B2 wants to get in between A2 and A3? Is it only allowing one opponent in between any two players, or can as many opponents request to get in between any two players?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by representing

So if A1 is taking the ball out of bounds and A2-A5 are standing shoulder to shoulder as per above (parallel to and within 3 feet of OOB line) and B1 wants to get in between A2 and A3, you have to let them? When does this have to take place, before you give the ball to A1?

Yes, prior to the throw-in. See 7.6.5

EDIT: another question... what if B1 and B2 wants to get in between A2 and A3? Is it only allowing one opponent in between any two players, or can as many opponents request to get in between any two players?

The rule says teammates shall not occupy adjacent positions. This would apply to both offense and defense.

[gslefeb]

adjacent posistions - Is this side by side as in BillyMac's post? Or front to back as in a "stack"? or both?

thanks..

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I have owned both a full-size Post Versilog since 1969, a half-size Post Versilog since 1973. I also own a Post Trig slide rule and I bought Mark, Jr., a full-size Versilog as a high school graduation present since he is majoring in both mechanical engineering and physics.

MTD, Sr.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by gslefeb

adjacent posistions - Is this side by side as in BillyMac's post? Or front to back as in a "stack"? or both?

thanks..

The dictionary definition of adjacent is "being in close proximity." The direction the players are facing would therefore seem not to be significant. The important part is that the positions occupied by the players not be parallel to the line.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by representing

So if A1 is taking the ball out of bounds and A2-A5 are standing shoulder to shoulder as per above (parallel to and within 3 feet of OOB line) and B1 wants to get in between A2 and A3, you have to let them? When does this have to take place, before you give the ball to A1?

EDIT: another question... what if B1 and B2 wants to get in between A2 and A3? Is it only allowing one opponent in between any two players, or can as many opponents request to get in between any two players?

1) Yes and yes. Sigh.

2) Only one (because if there were two, then the offense could request to get in between those two)

[representing]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Only one (because if there were two, then the offense could request to get in between those two)

Good point, didn't think of that. Thanks

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by representing

When does this have to take place, before you give the ball to A1?

No. The official should wait until the throw-in is completed and team A has scored.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Now before you answer, let me get out my sine, cosine, and tangent tables.

This is easy.

A sine is what says STOP at the end of the road.

Cosine is when you help your kids borrow money. (often ends badly)

Tangent is a small citrus fruit, kinda like an orange.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Or better yet, here's a chance for me to use the new slide rule that I bought myself for Christmas.

I haven't done it in years but I would bet that I can still play "Mary Had A Little Lamb" on the slide.