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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 03:16pm
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In addition the citation from jar, I'd just add that the best learning point from this situation is what you should have done. You obviously thought the basket may have been scored, your partner said he didn't see it. That's the time to head to the table and get the call right, not after administering the first throw.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 03:48pm
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In addition the citation from jar, I'd just add that the best learning point from this situation is what you should have done. You obviously thought the basket may have been scored, your partner said he didn't see it. That's the time to head to the table and get the call right, not after administering the first throw.
This part is forgiveable, I think. One official asked a question and received an answer from the other. It just so happens that he misunderstood the answer. This is one time, however, when I do welcome input from the table.

BUZZ! "The shot went in. What do mean two, you idiot??"

Where's chseagle when you need him.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 04:10pm
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Where's chseagle when you need him?
I guarantee that he would never let this happen if he were part of the table crew in this game. I don't know if he would call the reporting official an idiot, but it wouldn't be too long until the horn sounded.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 04:21pm
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This part is forgiveable, I think. One official asked a question and received an answer from the other. It just so happens that he misunderstood the answer. This is one time, however, when I do welcome input from the table.

BUZZ! "The shot went in. What do mean two, you idiot??"

Where's chseagle when you need him.
Good call - I didn't read clearly enough to see that he though "I don't know" was "no." Definitely forgiveable.

And I agree - an experienced table there probably sees this and hits the horn and asks the question to make sure. Would be a much better outcome.
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Old Sat Dec 19, 2009, 05:16pm
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Good call - I didn't read clearly enough to see that he though "I don't know" was "no." Definitely forgiveable.

And I agree - an experienced table there probably sees this and hits the horn and asks the question to make sure. Would be a much better outcome.
I am hearing-impaired, wearing two hearing-aids. So in a loud gym after the fans got a little crazy with the possible fight about to break out, I only heard "know" which I heard as "no". So yeah, definitely forgivable!

Thanks for all the comments. There were 5 people that screwed up, me, my partner and the three at the table not realizing I said 2 shots instead of 1.
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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 05:15pm
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I am hearing-impaired, wearing two hearing-aids.
Just wondering? Do you pregame this with your partners? In a loud gym, some other arrangement might need to be in place.
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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 06:18pm
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Just wondering? Do you pregame this with your partners?
I enjoy often working with a partner who is deaf. He uses sign language. I don't know sign language. I always use a pad and pen to facilitate communication between us for our pregame, halftime pow wow, and post game discussion. Once we're out on the court, it's all about proper mechanics, good signals, and lots of eye contact. Working with him always makes me a better official. Of course, during our captains/coaches/officials pregame meeting, I always tell the coaches that if they intend to do any yelling at the officials, to please yell at my partner rather than me. My partner always follows up my statement with a nod, a smile, and an OK sign.
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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 07:08pm
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I enjoy often working with a partner who is deaf. He uses sign language. I don't know sign language. I always use a pad and pen to facilitate communication between us for our pregame, halftime pow wow, and post game discussion. Once we're out on the court, it's all about proper mechanics, good signals, and lots of eye contact. Working with him always makes me a better official. Of course, during our captains/coaches/officials pregame meeting, I always tell the coaches that if they intend to do any yelling at the officials, to please yell at my partner rather than me. My partner always follows up my statement with a nod, a smile, and an OK sign.
Haha I always tell my partner that I don't mind coaches yelling at me because I can't hear them half the time. However if they say something way out of place and my partner thinks I may have missed it, I tell him/her to feel free to give out a T on my behalf.
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Old Sun Dec 20, 2009, 07:10pm
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Just wondering? Do you pregame this with your partners? In a loud gym, some other arrangement might need to be in place.
Most of the officials in my chapter knows this already from working with me before or just being friends with me at chapter meetings, but I do usually just give a reminder "hey, don't forget I'm hearing-impaired".

My partner did realize he may have not said it clear and loud enough for me because of my hearing-impairment when we were having our post-game discussion.
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