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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 641491)

Amen and amen. What tools do we have in our repertoire to prevent injuries? Calling fouls? Pshaw.

I agree also. My main point was with the officials' lack of professionalism, as expressed by the OP.

What we don't know is whether the official was nearing his ABS point with the coach, and his curt answer was just a old school way of preventing the T.

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 641493)

officials' lack of professionalism

I'm with you. There is never an excuse for that.

Hoepfully it wasn't a lack of professionalism but a management tool as you state.

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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 641495)

I'm with you. There is never an excuse for that.

Hoepfully it wasn't a lack of professionalism but a management tool as you state.

Yeah, but even so, I'm not fond of that as a management tool. Telling a coach to sit down is unprofessional, IMO, unless he's earned his T. If you don't take care of bidness with the T, you can't tell him to sit on it.

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 641491)

Amen and amen. What tools do we have in our repertoire to prevent injuries? Calling fouls? Pshaw.

Don't you listen to the fans imploring "If you don't start blowing the whistle someone's gonna get hurt"?
This has led to my contorted logic that the whistle has magic curative powers over and above simply calling fouls.
Try it, you'll like it!!!!!

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Originally Posted by jvcoach03 (Post 641111)

I need advice from some different officials -

Background - I am a JV coach - and I am a little loud - doesn't mean rude - but loud. I yell plays, directions, encouragements and corrections to my players. And sometimes I am a little loud with officials - (and before you get judgemental in 12 years as a HS coach I have 1 technical - and been warned 3 times to sit down and zip it - okay maybe 4)

Anyway - We played in a game last night that became VERY physical. I asked my captains to talk to the lead official because play was pretty bad around the hoop. so they asked if the official could watch physical play under the basket.

The response - loud enough for the bench to hear - "there is nothing to watch for- IF there was I would call it"

as the game progressed on there is a girl with a Major concussion, one with an elbow so swollen that she can't bend it, one with torn tendons in her shoulder and about 5 others that where all iced up at the end of the game (not all on my team)

When the elbow girl was thrown to the floor by her jersey right in front of the lead official I of course complained. She said there was no foul and threatened to throw me out. (no T given - No warning - Not asked to sit down)

What would be proper procedure to approach the association about this ref and this incident? or if I have this official again how do I properly approach them about handling very rough game play without putting them in the position of being on the defensive?

Thanks for any input

You should get together with your AD and contact the assignors. Be prepared to present them with videotapes and any notes you might have made. At the least, they'll talk to the officials involved to get their points-of-view. They may decide they shouldn't be assigned to any more of your games. If they do nothing, your state should have a mechanism for you to follow regarding these issues.