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just another ref Tue Dec 08, 2009 07:55pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 640802)
I have only done the notifying about the untucked jerseys once or twice to the floor officials. Majority of the time, I'll let that team's scorebook know to notify the coach about that player's jersey.

Different people have differing opinons I appreciate that.

My opinion is it's not your job to do that either.

BillyMac Tue Dec 08, 2009 07:59pm

Frustrating ...
 
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 640731)
She'd been allowed to play like that all season until then.

I hate it when they say that. It make those officials who worked the earlier games look like they either didn't know the rules, or didn't care to enforce the rules, and it makes it look like I'm being "overly officious".

Adam Tue Dec 08, 2009 08:03pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 640827)
I hate it when they say that. It make those officials who worked the earlier games look like they either didn't know the rules, or didn't care to enforce the rules, and it makes it look like I'm being "overly officious".

1. I never believe the coach when they say this.
2. The coach should know better and control what his players wear. I hate that they way for us to actually enforce it.
3. I find it equally disconcerting that the officials let her cover it with tape and play.

Rita C Wed Dec 09, 2009 01:11am

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Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 640737)
I have my cartilage pierced on my left year, and I have not put an earring in it for over a year due to officiating... I just put it in with no problems. And cartilage is supposed to close up faster than ear lobes!

If I leave mine out for a week or more, I will have problems.

Rita

chseagle Wed Dec 09, 2009 01:47am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 640828)
1. I never believe the coach when they say this.
2. The coach should know better and control what his players wear. I hate that they way for us to actually enforce it.
3. I find it equally disconcerting that the officials let her cover it with tape and play.

The floor officials didn't believe the coach either.

Concerning the taping of the head, the larger hair pins & the hair clips were pulled out of the hair. THe only areas taped over was were the smaller hair pins were located. The floor officials checked the taping to make sure there was no chance of injury before she was allowed back on the floor as a player.

mbyron Wed Dec 09, 2009 07:05am

Anyone else reminded of a 1930's newspaper headline by this thread's title? :)

bob jenkins Wed Dec 09, 2009 09:09am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 640893)
The floor officials didn't believe the coach either.

Concerning the taping of the head, the larger hair pins & the hair clips were pulled out of the hair. THe only areas taped over was were the smaller hair pins were located. The floor officials checked the taping to make sure there was no chance of injury before she was allowed back on the floor as a player.


Still shouldn't have been allowed.

Adam Wed Dec 09, 2009 09:11am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 640893)
The floor officials didn't believe the coach either.

Concerning the taping of the head, the larger hair pins & the hair clips were pulled out of the hair. THe only areas taped over was were the smaller hair pins were located. The floor officials checked the taping to make sure there was no chance of injury before she was allowed back on the floor as a player.

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 640929)
Still shouldn't have been allowed.

Exactly.

fullor30 Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:15am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 640640)
Had an 8th grade girls game last night. One of the girls on the visiting team had earrings. We told the coach before the game that if she wanted to play, she had to remove them. He went over and told her mom. She yelled (yes, yelled) that it was "impossible" to remove them because she just had them put in. The coach looked at us and I told him if she was going to play, they had to be removed. It was a player safety rule and we could not overlook it. He told the mom and she again yelled, this time it was, "That's the stupidest thing I ever heard!" I was tempted to reply, "Then I guess you never watch Fox News", but I just ignored her.

After the game, the mom stormed down out of the bleachers to confront us. She yelled, "I want to talk to you" while pointing directly at me. I grabbed my coat from under the table and quickly put on my earmuffs. I turned to her and said, "Go ahead". She just stared as I picked up my bag and walked out.

Where would this world be without middle school moms? ;)

(Political commentary deleted.) Edit: Yeah, Fox news is stupid, just agreeing with OP.

BillyMac Wed Dec 09, 2009 06:30pm

I Give Up, Which 1930's Headline ???
 
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 640911)
Anyone else reminded of a 1930's newspaper headline by this thread's title?

Your IQ must be at least double mine. And a few people consider me to be smart. Of course those are the people that others consider not to be smart. I bet Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. remembers the headline. Back then he didn't even have to wear reading glasses.

grunewar Sat Dec 12, 2009 07:53pm

Hmmmm....
 
Watching a B13/15 Rec League boy in warmups this morning and notice he has a wire at his ear. I call him over to tell him to remove it. Coach tells me he's deaf and needs it to hear.

So, coach, me, and boy go to talk to dad. Dad demonstrates that the wire is connected to a disk that connects directly to the boys head and disconnects when barely touched and he demonstrates it....me - :eek:

I ask, can he play without it? He says yes, he just can't hear anything. Wow! I talk to the league commissioner and dad and tell them I will not be responsible for anything that happens if they decide to leave it in. They agree and it wasn't an issue at all.

He's not a "special needs" player, but this was certainly a first for me.

Stat-Man Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:32am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 640780)
CHS - While I understand what you're doing and how you're trying to do it, I'm not so sure I want an OOS (Overly Officious Scorekeeper) working the table.....

*nods* The most I'll do at the table is remind officials of the league and level-specific no-press rules and the mandatory sub rules when they take effect. I may also have them talk to coaches if the coaches are out of their box and obstructing my view, but I don't have the desire -- or time -- to pick boogers.

mbyron Sun Dec 13, 2009 09:23am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 642107)
I talk to the league commissioner and dad and tell them I will not be responsible for anything that happens if they decide to leave it in. They agree and it wasn't an issue at all.

I'm glad nothing bad happened, but I hope you realize that this little disclaimer was a waste of breath and wouldn't last 10 seconds in court, had something untoward occurred.

grunewar Sun Dec 13, 2009 09:32am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 642224)
I'm glad nothing bad happened, but I hope you realize that this little disclaimer was a waste of breath and wouldn't last 10 seconds in court, had something untoward occurred.

Understand. I am sending a formal note to the league Monday.

BillyMac Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:09pm

Interesting Topic ...
 
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 642107)
Coach tells me he's deaf and needs it to hear.

I've had hearing aids, but have never had a cochlear implant. I've treated the hearing aids like eyeglasses, keeping in mind that any item, in the referee’s judgment, that constitutes a safety concern is not permitted.

NFHS citations? Comments?


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