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mbyron Tue Dec 08, 2009 02:05pm

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Originally Posted by Ignats75 (Post 640702)
True. And in fact I did tell an irate 6th grade Mom, that her daughter didn't have to take them out, but she didn't have to play either. She got the point.

Are you a lawyer? :D

Don't need to be a lawyer. It's simply not true that they must take them out. If they don't mind sitting, they can leave them in.

tjones1 Tue Dec 08, 2009 02:08pm

I had a situation like this in my very first game.

I noticed a girl had a "cast" of some sort on her finger. I asked if I could inspect it. When I looked at it I noticed it was made of hard plastic. I informed the coach that she could not play with it. Out of nowhere, a Mom from the stands comes storming down and I'm thinking to myself: "Oh boy, here we go... what I wonderful way to start off the season." The Mom brings it to the coach's attention that she should just wrap it with padding. The coach says: "Ok, we'll just wrap it." "Coach, that doesn't work either." She can't play with it at all, padded or not.

Mom told her that it was "ok" to not play with it as they were seeing the Doc the next day - whatever. Everything died down from there and we continued....

Ahhh, what a way to start the season. :D

Ignats75 Tue Dec 08, 2009 02:11pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 640703)
Don't need to be a lawyer. It's simply not true that they must take them out. If they don't mind sitting, they can leave them in.

Well, when I am having a conversation with a coach there are certain things that are implied. Such as, the girl is in the layup line in uniform, she intends to play. Well if she does, she has to take the earings out first. I was relaying somthing that actually happened. The coach knew what I was saying. The communication was accomplished. :rolleyes: In my case, I wasn't writing a script.

Another Gotcha. :rolleyes:

Mark Padgett Tue Dec 08, 2009 02:28pm

I still remember the MS boys game a few years ago when one of the players asked me if he had to remove his nipple ring. :eek:

Adam Tue Dec 08, 2009 02:33pm

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Originally Posted by Ignats75 (Post 640708)
Well, when I am having a conversation with a coach there are certain things that are implied. Such as, the girl is in the layup line in uniform, she intends to play. Well if she does, she has to take the earings out first. I was relaying somthing that actually happened. The coach knew what I was saying. The communication was accomplished. :rolleyes: In my case, I wasn't writing a script.

Another Gotcha. :rolleyes:

I agree, it's semantics. They all mean the same thing and the coaches and parents hear them the same way.

Ignats75 Tue Dec 08, 2009 02:34pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 640709)
I still remember the MS boys game a few years ago when one of the players asked me if he had to remove his nipple ring. :eek:

One of the things that I don't like to be is the uniform police. But its required and so we do it. But I draw the line at telling some girl her bra is the wrong color.:cool:

Mark Padgett Tue Dec 08, 2009 02:37pm

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Originally Posted by Ignats75 (Post 640712)
But I draw the line at telling some girl her bra is the wrong color.:cool:

How do you check for that? ;)

Forksref Tue Dec 08, 2009 02:42pm

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Originally Posted by Ignats75 (Post 640698)

"Well, the referee last week let us tape them. What, you hate little girls or are you just power mad?" :mad::mad::mad: (Ok, I made that last sentence up.)

Both.

But, seriously folks, the coach sets the tone with explaining the rules at the beginning of the season. There should never be any uniform/jewelry issues when the team comes on the floor!

chseagle Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:18pm

I had a similar situation last year for a Girls' C-Squad game, only it was metal bobbie pins & butterfly clips in the hair. She went through warmups and nothing was said. It wasn't till she came to the table to sub-in, that I noticed it, buzzed the floor officials about it & they gave the coach a warning about not following uniform rules/regulations.

How I understand the rules/regulations, only prewrap, scrunchies, headbands, or hairbands are to be used for hair control. (nothing metal in the hair).

The player went back to the bench, with the coach complaining she'd been allowed to play like that all season until then. The coach put tape over every piece of exposed metal object that couldn't be removed & she was allowed to played after that.

chartrusepengui Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:23pm

I hate that they allowed VB players to wear 2 inch bobby pins this year. I've gotten the look and the whine several times this. I've been told I have not kept up with the rules because this year "you can wear bobby pins in your hair". (like, where else would you wear them?) They know it's the rule now because "the volleyball officials told them it was new and it was ok." :rolleyes:

jeschmit Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:32pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 640651)
Let us stop this myth right now. It is not impossible to remove earrings or studs that were used to pierce your ear. I had both my ears pierced years ago (before I officiated) and you can take them out for a short period and put them back it. It might hurt, but it is possible. And sports are a privilege, not a right. So it is a simple choice.

Peace

I have my cartilage pierced on my left year, and I have not put an earring in it for over a year due to officiating... I just put it in with no problems. And cartilage is supposed to close up faster than ear lobes!

bob jenkins Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:43pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 640731)
I had a similar situation last year for a Girls' C-Squad game, only it was metal bobbie pins & butterfly clips in the hair. She went through warmups and nothing was said. It wasn't till she came to the table to sub-in, that I noticed it, buzzed the floor officials about it & they gave the coach a warning about not following uniform rules/regulations.

How I understand the rules/regulations, only prewrap, scrunchies, headbands, or hairbands are to be used for hair control. (nothing metal in the hair).

The player went back to the bench, with the coach complaining she'd been allowed to play like that all season until then. The coach put tape over every piece of exposed metal object that couldn't be removed & she was allowed to played after that.

1) Not your job.

2) Taping over it doesn't make it legal.

Ignats75 Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:59pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 640715)
How do you check for that? ;)

When she shot her free throws the pink clashed w the green jersey. (in the armholes)

chseagle Tue Dec 08, 2009 04:11pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 640740)
1) Not your job.

2) Taping over it doesn't make it legal.

Actually, Most, if not all, the floor officials I've worked with have appreciated the fact that I've kept myself up to date on uniform regulations & catching things that wouldn't of been caught otherwise.

I've done the same thing during dead ball situations where a player is on the floor with the jersey untucked.

Everyone's human & the small things do get missed when there's a lot of action going on. It wouldn't surprise me much if when on the floor, every floor official has, at least once, not noticed a uniform untucked or not to code.

The situation I mentioned happens maybe once every 50-100 games. It's not something that happens all the time. I cannot help if I'm that observant. During that situation, the floor officials were very thankful that I saw that.

Doesn't it help if a person gives friendly reminders for what to look for?

Ignats75 Tue Dec 08, 2009 04:14pm

Are You turning in the other team? Because that can make you look adversarial.


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