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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 10:45pm
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It lasted until Game 9

First T of the season. An ABS on the Coach about 3 minutes into the 2nd period. Out of control complaining about 'missed' calls. Team control foul called on his squad led to an a tirade. I had already spoken to him and let my partner know. So, it was time for the T. The rest of the game went much better. I have learned here and from others that it makes no sense to let it get worse as time goes on in this kind of situation. It never gets better.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 11:05pm
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 12:25am
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 12:37am
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My first T was a player in a JH boys game a few weeks ago, who apparently didn't think he fouled the shooter when I called it as such. After he yelled "I didn't even touch him!" I told him to knock it off, so he followed with a "You gotta be kidding me!", so he got whacked.

The varsity season just got into full swing this week. My partner T'd a coach in a girls game on Tuesday for screaming across the court (After he had warned her once) because she thought her girls were getting fouled when they were really just getting their shots blocked. When he went to administer the FTs, I was talking to her and when I explained that there wasn't contact and they were clean blocks, she said that it doesn't matter if there was contact because "She tomahawked her on that shot".
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 11:30am
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The varsity season just got into full swing this week. My partner T'd a coach in a girls game on Tuesday for screaming across the court (After he had warned her once) because she thought her girls were getting fouled when they were really just getting their shots blocked. When he went to administer the FTs, I was talking to her and when I explained that there wasn't contact and they were clean blocks, she said that it doesn't matter if there was contact because "She tomahawked her on that shot".
How would you feel, if your partner came over during this conversation and said, "What is this conversation about? I gave her the T and can explain anything immediately following."

These situations irritate me to no end. Quick story. I gave a coach a T several seasons ago and he was yelling across the court to find out what he did. Since he actions were still unacceptable, I just ignored him. My partner comes trotting over to me and says something along the lines of the coach wanted to know what he did. I told him I would tell the coach once I'm in front of him during the natural flow of the game. In the locker room, my partner told me that I HAVE to tell the coach what he did. I forget all the details of our conversation, but we did not see eye to eye on this issue.

I have also had pregames with D1 officials who mention this. Basically, it looks like you are consoling a coach who's actions just warranted a T from your partner. Some will disagree, but what can be gained from explaining what your partner called. When this happens and I have to go table side, I will be more on the court and the coach will be looking at my backside. If the coach continues with the behavior that earned him the T in the first place another one will follow.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 11:32am
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I gave out a double T last night and the only thing that saved these two young men is the fact that I'm a kindler, gentler Tom.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 11:56am
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How would you feel, if your partner came over during this conversation and said, "What is this conversation about? I gave her the T and can explain anything immediately following."

These situations irritate me to no end. Quick story. I gave a coach a T several seasons ago and he was yelling across the court to find out what he did. Since he actions were still unacceptable, I just ignored him. My partner comes trotting over to me and says something along the lines of the coach wanted to know what he did. I told him I would tell the coach once I'm in front of him during the natural flow of the game. In the locker room, my partner told me that I HAVE to tell the coach what he did. I forget all the details of our conversation, but we did not see eye to eye on this issue.

I have also had pregames with D1 officials who mention this. Basically, it looks like you are consoling a coach who's actions just warranted a T from your partner. Some will disagree, but what can be gained from explaining what your partner called. When this happens and I have to go table side, I will be more on the court and the coach will be looking at my backside. If the coach continues with the behavior that earned him the T in the first place another one will follow.

Regarding your situation, not sure I'm following the sequence of events on your T. You went tableside and reported it, did he ask why he was T'd at that point? I think he's entitled to know why the T.

Personally, I'd give a short, possibly one word reason for T. "you were warned" "Disrespect Coach", "Coach you used profanity" and the like. I answered his direct question and we move on.

And if his actions were still unacceptable, I would inform him as such. I may choose not to be tableside in this case to get away from him and we pregame that. I don't have a problem with said coach talking with my partner within the framework of the game. Hopefully it can diffuse the situation.

And if it doesn't, I want another member of the crew to whack him. Again, all pregamed
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ABS = Accumulation of Bovine Solid waste

An ABS technical is given not for a single large act, but for a series of smaller ones.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 05:39pm
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ABS = Accumulation of Bovine Solid waste

An ABS technical is given not for a single large act, but for a series of smaller ones.
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First T of the season. An ABS on the Coach about 3 minutes into the 2nd period. Out of control complaining about 'missed' calls. Team control foul called on his squad led to an a tirade. I had already spoken to him and let my partner know. So, it was time for the T. The rest of the game went much better. I have learned here and from others that it makes no sense to let it get worse as time goes on in this kind of situation. It never gets better.
Game 5 (tonight) for me. Juco mens. Player followed me to the table reporting and kept following me afterwards and just wanted to give me his opinion. Once he finally asked a question, he gave my answer a dismissive wave and showed me up.

And all the crying and whining stopped after the technical. From both sides.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 01:58am
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Had mine today.

Might have been the most uneventful T ever. Partner called a travel late in a game aginst the winning team, kid got frstrated and slammed the ball down.

I gave him the T, his coach gave him an earful then apologized to us after the game.
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