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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 05:56pm
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Can you give an example of one of those times? I'm not being sarcastic or starting a "pissing match." You added something to the conversation and I want to know specifics so I can digest what you are saying. The statement I made above honestly didn't come from me, but in the situation I described there was no reason for my partner to have his A$$ back there talking to the coach.
I happen to generally agree with this comment. If I whack a coach for poor behavior, I don't want any other official over there being (or having the appearance of being) buddy-buddy with him. If this is a NFHS game, a partner is going to go to him and inform him he's lost the box privileges, if he asks what he's done when that takes place, a very quick, very specific answer should be it.

IMO, a coach who gets whacked for behavior has lost some communication privileges, at least until the calling official has re-opened the door. If my partner whacks a coach, I'm not communicating beyond the very bare minimum.

I find most coaches get back to coaching and quit officiating after that anyway.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 08:10pm
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I happen to generally agree with this comment. If I whack a coach for poor behavior, I don't want any other official over there being (or having the appearance of being) buddy-buddy with him. If this is a NFHS game, a partner is going to go to him and inform him he's lost the box privileges, if he asks what he's done when that takes place, a very quick, very specific answer should be it.

IMO, a coach who gets whacked for behavior has lost some communication privileges, at least until the calling official has re-opened the door. If my partner whacks a coach, I'm not communicating beyond the very bare minimum.

I find most coaches get back to coaching and quit officiating after that anyway.
Why have they lost some communication privileges?
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 08:19pm
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Why have they lost some communication privileges?
Probably need a little clarification. I will talk with coaches quite a bit. A lot of stuff that some people would probably not. I want to have strong communication with them throughout the game. I will respond to things that some won't, and I go out of my way when I can to communicate with them, even if it's just to acknowledge that I hear them.

But if they abuse that and draw a T, we're not talking much after that. I'm not going out of my way after that, and I sure don't want my partners going out of their way to placate him. Legit questions at the correct time can get a response, but that's it.

It's simply a matter of tightening up. If I whacked a coach for chirping, my partners better not be running over to him because he's chirping again. He should get the message.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 08:54pm
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Probably need a little clarification. I will talk with coaches quite a bit. A lot of stuff that some people would probably not. I want to have strong communication with them throughout the game. I will respond to things that some won't, and I go out of my way when I can to communicate with them, even if it's just to acknowledge that I hear them.

But if they abuse that and draw a T, we're not talking much after that. I'm not going out of my way after that, and I sure don't want my partners going out of their way to placate him. Legit questions at the correct time can get a response, but that's it.

It's simply a matter of tightening up. If I whacked a coach for chirping, my partners better not be running over to him because he's chirping again. He should get the message.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 08:52pm
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Why have they lost some communication privileges?
The way I see it, standing next to the coach to let her vent while the free throws are shot is rewarding her for getting the T. She now has your ear in a way she didn't before. IOW, her little temper tantrum worked.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 09:03pm
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The way I see it, standing next to the coach to let her vent while the free throws are shot is rewarding her for getting the T. She now has your ear in a way she didn't before. IOW, her little temper tantrum worked.
The Fed must have had something in mind when they decided that reporting official on shooting fouls stays table side. A T'd coach knows there is a fine line to what they can say and they don't want to pole vault over it.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 09:07pm
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The Fed must have had something in mind when they decided that reporting official on shooting fouls stays table side. A T'd coach knows there is a fine line to what they can say and they don't want to pole vault over it.
I'm not sure what the fed was thinking. They took us table side in two-man and opposite in three-man. The left and right hands are working against each other it seems.

Frankly, I like table side on personal fouls, but I'm pretty sure that goes out the window on Ts.
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