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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 637706)

I have ontological objections to this claim. :p

Overruled.

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 637709)

Overruled.

You didn't even ask what they were. :p

I have to admit I wondered what it had to do with the existence of God. Then I realized, "It's Monday. Never mind."

I am curious, though.

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 637713)

I have to admit I wondered what it had to do with the existence of God. Then I realized, "It's Monday. Never mind."

I am curious, though.

Numbers can't be words, though we do have words that refer to numbers (such as 'one' and 'seventy-two').

I thought about ignoring your category error and realized, "it's Monday, I'd better not." :D

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 637701)

Agree with both. When I do say something, it's "let it hit." Anything involving schools or high school aged players, the only words I use are those that symbolize numbers plus the occasional "and" when required.

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 637706)

I have ontological objections to this claim. :p

Better?

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 637724)

Better?

I'm gratified that you're working so hard just to please me, so it seems a little bit petty to say no. Words don't symbolize numbers, numerals do. But you're getting warmer! ;)

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 637781)

I'm gratified that you're working so hard just to please me, so it seems a little bit petty to say no. Words don't symbolize numbers, numerals do. But you're getting warmer! ;)

Words are vocal symbols of ideas, entities, events, etc. I disagree.

I thought about correcting that to "refer to" rather than "symbolize," but where's the rhetorical fun in that?

Hmmm, so I get that two is an abstract mathematical concept. I get that "2" is a numeral, that represents the abstract concept of two.

But "two" is, in my tiny little mind, "two" is the English language written representation of either "2" or two. Or both. Which makes it, in a word, a word.

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 637784)

Hey, that's good!

The word 'two' is the English word that refers to the number two, which is an abstract object. The concept is the meaning of the word, and is also distinct from the object. (To see why, imagine that there had never been any humans at all, and so no languages -- the number two would still exist, so it must be distinct from any concept.)

We can talk about the object -- the number -- in different languages, referring to it as 'deux' or 'zwei' or 'dos', etc. But it's one and the same object, no matter which word we use. The unity of the object explains why all of the different words can share the same meaning.

Is that enough semantics for one day? :cool:

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 637706)

I have ontological objections to this claim. :p

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 637723)

Numbers can't be words, though we do have words that refer to numbers (such as 'one' and 'seventy-two').

I thought about ignoring your category error and realized, "it's Monday, I'd better not." :D

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 637781)

I'm gratified that you're working so hard just to please me, so it seems a little bit petty to say no. Words don't symbolize numbers, numerals do. But you're getting warmer! ;)

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 637830)

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra.../notworthy.gif You are my hero.

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Originally Posted by constable (Post 637707)

I concur

'" 1 shot"
"2 shots"
"3 shots"
or " 1 and bonus...or 1 and 1"

etc

Depending on the risk of OT, I might say, "4 shots" or "5 shots" or "however many shots until I say stop". :p

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 637834)

"however many shots until I say stop". :p

The NFHS should change the penalty for a direct T on the Head Coach to that.

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 637837)

The NFHS should change the penalty for a direct T on the Head Coach to that.

I'm in! Where do we vote for that option? :D

How about shoot until you miss on Ts? :eek:

I Need An Aspirin ...

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 637830)

The word 'two' is the English word that refers to the number two, which is an abstract object. The concept is the meaning of the word, and is also distinct from the object. (To see why, imagine that there had never been any humans at all, and so no languages -- the number two would still exist, so it must be distinct from any concept.) We can talk about the object -- the number -- in different languages, referring to it as 'deux' or 'zwei' or 'dos', etc. But it's one and the same object, no matter which word we use. The unity of the object explains why all of the different words can share the same meaning.

Will this be on the test? God, I hope not.