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referee50 Sun Nov 22, 2009 03:39pm

Free throw administration for NFHS California
 
NFHS for free throw administration the off and def on the lane lines must wait til contact with the rim, what about the off and def behind the arc / 3 point line?

Must they wait for rim contact before breaking that plane?

Want to confirm, thx

Mark Padgett Sun Nov 22, 2009 03:53pm

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Originally Posted by referee50 (Post 637583)
NFHS for free throw administration the off and def on the lane lines must wait til contact with the rim, what about the off and def behind the arc / 3 point line?

Must they wait for rim contact before breaking that plane?

Want to confirm, thx

The restrictions are the same. BTW - it's until the ball hits the rim or the free throw ends.

APG Sun Nov 22, 2009 04:38pm

Under NFHS, EVERYONE must wait until the ball contacts the basket or the free throw ends before they can enter the lane.

Camron Rust Sun Nov 22, 2009 04:44pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 637585)
The restrictions are the same. BTW - it's until the ball hits the rim or the free throw ends.

Actually, it is until the ball hits the rim, the backboard, or the FT ends.

Adam Sun Nov 22, 2009 05:40pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 637590)
Actually, it is until the ball hits the rim, the backboard, or the FT ends.

Thank you, every post was making my blood pressure rise until this part. My biggest pet peave is when the administering official says "wait til it hits the rim."

It only passes the guy who moves everyone behind the division line on T shots because it happens more often.

Mark Padgett Sun Nov 22, 2009 07:28pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 637590)
Actually, it is until the ball hits the rim, the backboard, or the FT ends.

As always, Camron is exactly correct. I don't know why I missed that because I always say, "Wait until it hits something", not "Wait until it hits the rim".

mutantducky Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:47pm

I saw a player start running from about half court. is that ok? I assume it is. Just kind of strange.

Welpe Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:53pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 637629)
I saw a player start running from about half court. is that ok? I assume it is. Just kind of strange.

My question for you, is there a rule preventing it?

Mark Padgett Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:55pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 637629)
I saw a player start running from about half court. is that ok? I assume it is. Just kind of strange.

As long as he doesn't cross the three point line at the free throw line extended before the ball hits the rim or backboard or it is obvious the free throw will be missed (or it swishes in). Also, if he is on the non-shooting team, he cannot (in your opinion) disconcert the shooter.

Back In The Saddle Mon Nov 23, 2009 01:57am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 637613)
As always, Camron is exactly correct. I don't know why I missed that because I always say, "Wait until it hits something", not "Wait until it hits the rim".

When I address this at all (usually only in youth leagues, etc.) all I say is, "Let it hit."

bob jenkins Mon Nov 23, 2009 09:15am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 637646)
When I address this at all (usually only in youth leagues, etc.) all I say is, "Let it hit."

All of the above is too much verbiage for me. I just say "one" or "two" or "three" or "one-and-one."

The players aren't listening to the rest anyway, and it's not as if sometimes they can enter on the release and sometime they have to wait for the hit.

(Exception: some summer tournaments / leagues play by FED rules and some by NCAA rules, so I do mention "wait" here, especially in the first couple of games.)

grunewar Mon Nov 23, 2009 09:29am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 637676)
All of the above is too much verbiage for me. I just say "one" or "two" or "three" or "one-and-one."

This is how I was instructed also.

Adam Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:45am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 637646)
When I address this at all (usually only in youth leagues, etc.) all I say is, "Let it hit."

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 637676)
All of the above is too much verbiage for me. I just say "one" or "two" or "three" or "one-and-one."

The players aren't listening to the rest anyway, and it's not as if sometimes they can enter on the release and sometime they have to wait for the hit.

(Exception: some summer tournaments / leagues play by FED rules and some by NCAA rules, so I do mention "wait" here, especially in the first couple of games.)

Agree with both. When I do say something, it's "let it hit." Anything involving schools or high school aged players, the only words I use are numbers.

mbyron Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:30am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 637701)
Anything involving schools or high school aged players, the only words I use are numbers.

I have ontological objections to this claim. :p

constable Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:35am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 637646)
When I address this at all (usually only in youth leagues, etc.) all I say is, "Let it hit."

I concur

'" 1 shot"
"2 shots"
"3 shots"
or " 1 and bonus...or 1 and 1"

etc


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