Free throw administration for NFHS California
 

NFHS for free throw administration the off and def on the lane lines must wait til contact with the rim, what about the off and def behind the arc / 3 point line?

Must they wait for rim contact before breaking that plane?

Want to confirm, thx

The restrictions are the same. BTW - it's until the ball hits the rim or the free throw ends.

Under NFHS, EVERYONE must wait until the ball contacts the basket or the free throw ends before they can enter the lane.

Actually, it is until the ball hits the rim, the backboard, or the FT ends.

Thank you, every post was making my blood pressure rise until this part. My biggest pet peave is when the administering official says "wait til it hits the rim."

It only passes the guy who moves everyone behind the division line on T shots because it happens more often.

As always, Camron is exactly correct. I don't know why I missed that because I always say, "Wait until it hits something", not "Wait until it hits the rim".

I saw a player start running from about half court. is that ok? I assume it is. Just kind of strange.

My question for you, is there a rule preventing it?

As long as he doesn't cross the three point line at the free throw line extended before the ball hits the rim or backboard or it is obvious the free throw will be missed (or it swishes in). Also, if he is on the non-shooting team, he cannot (in your opinion) disconcert the shooter.

When I address this at all (usually only in youth leagues, etc.) all I say is, "Let it hit."

All of the above is too much verbiage for me. I just say "one" or "two" or "three" or "one-and-one."

The players aren't listening to the rest anyway, and it's not as if sometimes they can enter on the release and sometime they have to wait for the hit.

(Exception: some summer tournaments / leagues play by FED rules and some by NCAA rules, so I do mention "wait" here, especially in the first couple of games.)

This is how I was instructed also.

Agree with both. When I do say something, it's "let it hit." Anything involving schools or high school aged players, the only words I use are numbers.

I have ontological objections to this claim. :p

I concur

'" 1 shot"
"2 shots"
"3 shots"
or " 1 and bonus...or 1 and 1"

etc

Overruled.

You didn't even ask what they were. :p

I have to admit I wondered what it had to do with the existence of God. Then I realized, "It's Monday. Never mind."

I am curious, though.

Numbers can't be words, though we do have words that refer to numbers (such as 'one' and 'seventy-two').

I thought about ignoring your category error and realized, "it's Monday, I'd better not." :D

Better?

I'm gratified that you're working so hard just to please me, so it seems a little bit petty to say no. Words don't symbolize numbers, numerals do. But you're getting warmer! ;)

Words are vocal symbols of ideas, entities, events, etc. I disagree.

I thought about correcting that to "refer to" rather than "symbolize," but where's the rhetorical fun in that?

Hmmm, so I get that two is an abstract mathematical concept. I get that "2" is a numeral, that represents the abstract concept of two.

But "two" is, in my tiny little mind, "two" is the English language written representation of either "2" or two. Or both. Which makes it, in a word, a word.

Hey, that's good!

The word 'two' is the English word that refers to the number two, which is an abstract object. The concept is the meaning of the word, and is also distinct from the object. (To see why, imagine that there had never been any humans at all, and so no languages -- the number two would still exist, so it must be distinct from any concept.)

We can talk about the object -- the number -- in different languages, referring to it as 'deux' or 'zwei' or 'dos', etc. But it's one and the same object, no matter which word we use. The unity of the object explains why all of the different words can share the same meaning.

Is that enough semantics for one day? :cool:

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra.../notworthy.gif You are my hero.

Depending on the risk of OT, I might say, "4 shots" or "5 shots" or "however many shots until I say stop". :p

The NFHS should change the penalty for a direct T on the Head Coach to that.

I'm in! Where do we vote for that option? :D

How about shoot until you miss on Ts? :eek:

I Need An Aspirin ...
 

Will this be on the test? God, I hope not.