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Old Tue Dec 01, 2009, 02:50pm
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I just picked up an ABW customer from the NH/Mass. area on RefTown....got all of his stuff converted and ready to roll in a just a few hours.

I've also spoken with an assignor from Chicago who is part of a group of assignors and hope to speak with them some more.

All I can say is that that RefTown is always comes out favorably when givean a true comparison with any other product.

I'm also offering a full year free for anyone converting from ABW. Why? I know they'll be satisified and stay. I've pick up other ABW customers in the past and they have never looked back.
I have used RefTown and Arbiter. I can say that RefTown blows Arbiter away in every way from a user perspective.

Now if Cam could just link calendars from different associations so that availability if updated across your user account instead of per association, that would be cool!

But, I really prefer RefTown over Arbiter any day of the week. FAR easier for the user to understand.
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Old Tue Dec 01, 2009, 06:36pm
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I have used RefTown and Arbiter. I can say that RefTown blows Arbiter away in every way from a user perspective.

Now if Cam could just link calendars from different associations so that availability if updated across your user account instead of per association, that would be cool!

But, I really prefer RefTown over Arbiter any day of the week. FAR easier for the user to understand.
I don't know who you are but thanks for the kind words.

Released that upgrade last night...to a degree. When you accept a game in one association, you can optionally have it mark you as not available for that date for your other associations. You choose which ones get updated. For example, you could accept a HS game, have it mark you out for rec leagues but leave you open for a possible college assignment.


Making the calendars all in one seems like a good idea until you realize that they often end up with different info. You don't want your calendar to show you as not available on the association where you have a game. You might wish to reserve dates for one assignor by blocking out the others until your preferred assignor gets their schedule entered.

I might look at an extra layer of caledars....one that applies globaly but that just might get too complicated for most users to comprehend given that RefTown availability calendars already have the most flexibility of any I've seen.

For those on ABW, I just created an custom import routine where I can upload data exported from ABW in less than an hour...possibly as little as 15 minutes in some cases....all rosters, games, assignments....just about every thing a group would need to be running in less than a day. And I'm offering a free year just to try it out. A no-lose situation.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 02:55pm
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I don't know who you are but thanks for the kind words.

Released that upgrade last night...to a degree. When you accept a game in one association, you can optionally have it mark you as not available for that date for your other associations. You choose which ones get updated. For example, you could accept a HS game, have it mark you out for rec leagues but leave you open for a possible college assignment.


Making the calendars all in one seems like a good idea until you realize that they often end up with different info. You don't want your calendar to show you as not available on the association where you have a game. You might wish to reserve dates for one assignor by blocking out the others until your preferred assignor gets their schedule entered.

I might look at an extra layer of caledars....one that applies globaly but that just might get too complicated for most users to comprehend given that RefTown availability calendars already have the most flexibility of any I've seen.

For those on ABW, I just created an custom import routine where I can upload data exported from ABW in less than an hour...possibly as little as 15 minutes in some cases....all rosters, games, assignments....just about every thing a group would need to be running in less than a day. And I'm offering a free year just to try it out. A no-lose situation.
Cam, you can figure out who I am by remembering a recent email I sent concerning my disapproval of a college group I belong to changing to another assigning program. I was also in your first year class in the PBOA last year.

I just seen that update about marking a date unavailable. Now, if you could do something to the effect of the accepted game time range being marked unavailable, that would be awesome.

For example: I belong to two associations that assign via RefTown, and both do similar level of games (in this case, the NWOLLC and the THBOA). I accepted games for NWOLLC. It would be cool if I could mark THOSE TIMES as being unavailable with the THBOA, plus an additional hour after the last game. This way, if say, I only had 2 games at 9am and 10:30 with NWOLLC in the morning, I could still be shown as available for games from 1pm and later with THBOA. This is not an unlikely scenario! You could safely assume that a game will last at least 1.5 hours and add an hour (for travel) to the end of that last game as unavailable times.

I am not sure that Arbiter can even do that. I don't have any overlapping associations with Arbiter.
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Old Wed Dec 02, 2009, 05:10pm
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I have used RefTown and Arbiter. I can say that RefTown blows Arbiter away in every way from a user perspective.

Now if Cam could just link calendars from different associations so that availability if updated across your user account instead of per association, that would be cool!
You say that RefTown is better than the Arbiter in every way then right away say something that you wish RefTown did that the Arbiter does....
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 02:42pm
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You say that RefTown is better than the Arbiter in every way then right away say something that you wish RefTown did that the Arbiter does....
Well, RefTown now DOES it. I knew Cam would have something like that coming soon.
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