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[bc7]

Thanks everyone for your help. I thought we had it right, but I just wanted to confirm.

Oh.... and,

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I had a situation in my first game today (the situation I originally started this thread with was my second game), Team A with the ball, I am right in front of Team B's coach as the trail official. A1 tries to pass the ball and B1 sticks his left leg out striking the ball with the top part of his knee. TWEEEEEEET! I call a "kicked ball". Team B's coach starts yelling that it hit his knee, when I informed him that any intentional striking of the ball with any part of the leg is a violation, he drops this one on me:

"THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS IN THE RULE BOOK!"

Oh really?

OH REALLY?!?!?!

Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you Rule 4-29:
Kicking the ball is intentionally striking it with any part of the leg or foot.

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Ok, sorry about that. But when coaches try to pretend that they know all the rules and then it gets the parents involved with yelling at us, it really irks me.

Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled bizarre stats from Mark Padgett.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bc7

Team B's coach starts yelling that it hit his knee, when I informed him that any intentional striking of the ball with any part of the leg is a violation.

You are correct, the current definition of a kick is intentionally striking the ball with any part of the leg. This changed several years ago. A kick used to be intentionally striking of the ball with the knee, or any part of the leg below the knee. Since the ball struck the player's knee, then this coach would have been wrong in two different centuries, the 20th century, and the 21st century.

He may have been wrong in a third century, the 19th century, but Dr. Naismith's original thirteen rules don't specifically mention kicking the ball. Eventually Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. will complete his football concession stand duties, and he'll be back on the Forum. He officiated games for Dr. Naismith and will be able to give us some insight into 19th century rules, specifically rules involving kicking. Of course he'll complain about having to go up into his attic library to get his old rule parchments, but he'll eventually come through for us. He always does.

[bc7]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

You are correct, the current definition of a kick is intentionally striking the ball with any part of the leg. This changed several years ago. A kick used to be intentionally striking of the ball with the knee, or any part of the leg below the knee. Since the ball struck the player's knee, then this coach would have been wrong in two different centuries, the 20th century, and the 21st century.

He may have been wrong in a third century, the 19th century, but Dr. Naismith's original thirteen rules don't specifically mention kicking the ball. Eventually Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. will complete his football concession stand duties, and he'll be back on the Forum. He officiated games for Dr. Naismith and will be able to give us some insight into 19th century rules, specifically rules involving kicking. Of course he'll complain about having to go up into his attic library to get his old rule parchments, but he'll eventually come through for us. He always does.

Hahahahaha!!! Is there anything better than being correct in multiple centuries? Can't wait to hear Mark's answers.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by bc7

"THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS IN THE RULE BOOK!"

Here's my stock reply to that:

"Coach, I'll tell you what. I have a rule book in my bag. Let's look it up. If you're right, I'll give you $100. If I'm right, you have to go out in the parking lot and wash my car. OK?"

I've never had a coach take me up on that.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Here's my stock reply to that:

"Coach, I'll tell you what. I have a rule book in my bag. Let's look it up. If you're right, I'll give you $100. If I'm right, you have to go out in the parking lot and wash my car. OK?"

I've never had a coach take me up on that.

My solution, as previously mentioned on this forum on several occasions, is to immediately assess a technical foul on the coach. When he asks why he got a T, you inform him that he needs to consult the rules book. My principle is that coaches can argue any situation that they wish, but if they are incorrect about a rule, the penalty is a direct T.

I've had very few coaches challenge me about rules since I began to employ this philosophy.