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bob jenkins Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:00pm

Unannounced Rules Book Changes
 
Two found so far (and it's hard because we don't get new rules or case books in IL this year):

2-5-1 changed

3-4-2d added.

Why can't (or why doesn't) the NFHS shade these changes / additions? I agree that they probably aren't important enough to make they yearly memo, or discussion, but if would be nice if they were noted in the books.

Back In The Saddle Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:18pm

Bob, I haven't gotten my books for the year yet. And I don't have my copy of the .pdf version here at work. Would you, or anybody else, mind posting what those changes are?

wanja Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 630894)
Bob, I haven't gotten my books for the year yet. And I don't have my copy of the .pdf version here at work. Would you, or anybody else, mind posting what those changes are?

Nice catches Bob.

A few years ago, IAABO allowed the referee to designate another official to toss the jump ball. This is now allowed per the 2-5-1 rule change that you cited.

The 2009 NFHS test contained a question on the rule 3-4-2d addition allowing a school or conference logo/mascot at the apex/opening of the neckline.

mbyron Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 630894)
Bob, I haven't gotten my books for the year yet. And I don't have my copy of the .pdf version here at work. Would you, or anybody else, mind posting what those changes are?

2-5:

The referee shall:
ART. 1 . . . Designate the official to toss the ball in the center restraining circle
for all jump-ball situations.

3-4:

ART. 2 . . . Logos/flags/patches shall adhere to the following:
d. A school or conference logo/mascot may be located at the apex/opening of
the neckline.

Jerry Blum Wed Oct 14, 2009 01:07pm

What's the difference for 2-5? I thought that was added last season. Unless the wording has been changed this year. I don't have the books with me to compare.

jdmara Wed Oct 14, 2009 01:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 630898)
2-5:

The referee shall:
ART. 1 . . . Designate the official to toss the ball in the center restraining circle
for all jump-ball situations.

I didn't think that was true in years past! I missed that question and thought I was just loosing my mind (which isn't a surprise though)

-Josh

Adam Wed Oct 14, 2009 01:12pm

I thought it was changed last season, but that could have been an IAABO/CO thing.

jdmara Wed Oct 14, 2009 01:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 630908)
I thought it was changed last season, but that could have been an IAABO/CO thing.

2008-2009 says:

"SECTION 5 REFEREE’S DUTIES DURING GAME
The referee shall:
ART. 1 . . . Toss the ball in the center restraining circle for all jump-ball situations."

Glad Bob pointed out the change because I was looking earlier to find what rule set that the referee shall toss the ball.

-Josh

jritchie Wed Oct 14, 2009 01:18pm

That was changed last season, because I remember discussing it in our assoc. meeting. We have an official that would never be the referee because he didn't want to toss the ball, so we said that rule was put in for him. Now he can designate someone to throw. You really had to be their, funny stuff

Ch1town Wed Oct 14, 2009 01:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 630908)
I thought it was changed last season, but that could have been an IAABO/CO thing.

I believe it is an IAABO thing as the R had the option last season. I like having options :)

fiasco Wed Oct 14, 2009 01:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jritchie (Post 630910)
That was changed last season, because I remember discussing it in our assoc. meeting. We have an official that would never be the referee because he didn't want to toss the ball, so we said that rule was put in for him. Now he can designate someone to throw. You really had to be their, funny stuff

It was definitely changed, but it was put in a rather obscure place, I think maybe the officials manual.

This was just clarifying the change. Nothing more to see here...

Back In The Saddle Wed Oct 14, 2009 03:14pm

I believe the NFHS made this a mechanics change last year, and put it in the officials manual. But the rule book still required the referee to toss. I remember noticing the contradiction and thinking they'd pooched that one. This change fixes that.

BillyMac Wed Oct 14, 2009 06:05pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 630885)
2-5-1 changed
3-4-2d added.

Why can't, or why doesn't, the NFHS shade these changes/additions? It would be nice if they were noted in the books.

Agree. Nice catch. Thanks for the tip.

Nevadaref Thu Oct 15, 2009 04:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 630953)
I believe the NFHS made this a mechanics change last year, and put it in the officials manual. But the rule book still required the referee to toss. I remember noticing the contradiction and thinking they'd pooched that one. This change fixes that.

You are correct, O' Great One! :D

JRutledge Thu Oct 15, 2009 05:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 630885)
Two found so far (and it's hard because we don't get new rules or case books in IL this year)

I got books. :D

Peace


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