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rockyroad Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:33pm

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Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 626523)
And I would much rather live in Portland than Vantucky.


Well, at least we share that in common - I would rather you lived in Portland than over here also.:cool:

Smitty Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:38pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 626635)
Well, at least we share that in common - I would rather you lived in Portland than over here also.:cool:


http://www.smileyhut.com/happy/clap2.gif

That was a good one.

Tim C Tue Sep 22, 2009 04:00pm

Hehehehe
 
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"Well, at least we share that in common - I would rather you lived in Portland than over here also."
Well played Rocko!

Even I laughed at that one.

rockyroad Tue Sep 22, 2009 04:27pm

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Originally Posted by Tim C (Post 626677)
Well played Rocko!

Even I laughed at that one.

:p

bbcoach7 Tue Sep 22, 2009 06:12pm

who cares?
 
How come it doesn't make the news if a referee -at any level- gets a DUI? Could it be because nobody gives a rats @ss? Nor should we care. Does anyone honestly (having took a look around the room, forget that;) ) believe that getting a DUI makes someone a bad person? Is there a connection between getting a DUI and not being suitable to coach?

Alcoholism is a disease, but a person need not drink like an alcoholic to make some bad decisions and end up getting a DUI. If a guy gets a DUI, no matter his occupation, that's his business. Most people learn their lesson, they get help. If it becomes a pattern, that becomes different. If it involves others, like destruction of property, or killing or injuring innocents, that's different.

Why in the world any fool would leap to a conclusion that a DUI conviction should lead to not being able to work in one's chosen profession is baffling to me. Wait, what? Nobody said that, close but not exactly? Well then, in that case, I almost offer my apology, not exactly, but close.

I believe this year, maybe last, a Jefferson County, Washington sheriff's deputy has been suspended from duty and arrested with a DUI after he arrived at work appearing to be intoxicated. This guy is really pushing his luck. Should he be offered rehab? Or should it be zero tollerance for LEO's?

George W Bush has a DUI on his record. Other that some lunatic fringe liberals, I don't recall that blemish being offered as doubt that he should be the President.

VP Dick Cheney has 2 arrests for DUI on his record. Didn't seem to hurt him much.

New York Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain was cited October 18, 2007 for DUI in Lancaster County, Nebraska. Anyone think he shouldn't be allowed to play MLB?

A basketball referee in Anywhere USA got his 2nd DUI yesterday. It went unreported in all major news papers. Nobody cared except his family and his wallet. He will be refereeing games tonight if he can get a ride to the gym. He is still a quality referee despite the unrelated DUI

A basketball coach at XYZ High School in A Town Near You USA, got his 2nd DUI last week. He is now scorned and looked down upon as a complete loser. The Town, the State, and the referees, are outraged that this pathetic excuse of a man can still be employed as a coach at XYZ High School. "He is supposed to be seting an example!" Meanwhile, star guard Bobby Taylors Dad is still assigned as Bobby's Dad, despite his DUI conviction. And XYZ High's Principal is still the principal despite his 2nd DUI in 5 years.

BillyMac Tue Sep 22, 2009 06:49pm

Role Model ???
 
Simsbury's Varsity Lacrosse Coach Apparently Out Of Job Following Allegations Of Teen Drinking Party -- Courant.com

rockyroad Tue Sep 22, 2009 08:15pm

bbcoach7,

Coaches at high schools tell their athletes they have to agree to and sign a code of conduct. If the student violates that code, they are suspended or kicked off the team. Why should the coach be treated any different than the athletes he/she is supposed to lead???

Juulie Downs Tue Sep 22, 2009 08:44pm

bb7 -- DUI is illegal. It's dangerous and stupid. A coach is expected to be an example to his or her players not only in the school and team setting, but also in everyday life. I would expect the same kind of standard from any teacher with my kids. That person has made a very wrong decision, and needs to be held accountable.

And although there wasn't much that Bush did that I agreed with, I didn't have a problem with his DUII's because they were in the far past, and he'd shown that he'd grown past that stage of his life. Any coach should also be held to that standard. The DUI's we're talking about on this thread are quite recent.

LDUB Tue Sep 22, 2009 09:56pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 626697)
bbcoach7,

Coaches at high schools tell their athletes they have to agree to and sign a code of conduct. If the student violates that code, they are suspended or kicked off the team. Why should the coach be treated any different than the athletes he/she is supposed to lead???

Because the coach didn't sign a code of conduct. Because it's not illegal for the coach to drink alcohol. Because the coach is an adult.

Juulie Downs Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:58pm

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 626713)
Because the coach didn't sign a code of conduct. Because it's not illegal for the coach to drink alcohol. Because the coach is an adult.

...but it IS illegal for the coach to drink and drive, and that's what they got in trouble for, not just for drinking at a party and then sleeping it off -- drinking and driving.

rockyroad Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:58am

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Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 626713)
Because the coach didn't sign a code of conduct. Because it's not illegal for the coach to drink alcohol. Because the coach is an adult.

The coach signed a contract with the school district that most certainly DOES contain ethics clauses...the coach DID do something illegal when he/she drank and got behind the wheel of an automobile...the coach needs to ACT like an adult.

BillyMac Wed Sep 23, 2009 06:32am

Land Of Steady Habits ???
 
Athletes' Parents Want Party Policy Changed | NBC Connecticut

This is not about the same town that I posted about above. What's going on here in the "Land of Steady habits"? Will the rest of America think that our high school students, especially our high school athletes, are a bunch of drunks that can't follow athletic codes of conduct?

bob jenkins Wed Sep 23, 2009 07:53am

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Originally Posted by bbcoach7 (Post 626688)
How come it doesn't make the news if a referee -at any level- gets a DUI? Could it be because nobody gives a rats @ss?

Because coaches (sometimes at least) also drive the team bus.

Because coaches are far more "role models" for players than are officials.

Because coaches' names are more known to the editors of the local papers, so when the editor scans the police blotter it stands out and, thus, becomes a story.

Mark Padgett Wed Sep 23, 2009 09:48am

Update
 
Two of the three football coaches completed eight hours of community service yesterday by picking up trash in downtown Portland.

Ref Ump Welsch Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:53am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 626775)
Two of the three football coaches completed eight hours of community service yesterday by picking up trash in downtown Portland.

Were they wearing orange jumpsuits or bibs/vests that showed them off? :D


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