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Old Thu Aug 27, 2009, 05:56am
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I think a history of convictions for violent crimes, even if not committed against children, should disqualify someone from officiating. Do you want someone who served 25+ years for manslaughter being around your kid?
Are you aware that that is what one is charged with if crash into someone while driving drunk and kill that person?

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So if someone went to party while in college, got drunk, tried to drive home anyway, and ended up in a crash which killed someone, then is convicted of manslaughter and serves his time, you are saying that should disqualify this individual from officiating HS sports?

What does that have to do being around kids?

Sorry, Padgett, but you are off the mark with that example. Now had you written murder, which "requires malicious intent," then I would be with you.
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Sorry, Padgett, but you are off the mark with that example. Now had you written murder, which "requires malicious intent," then I would be with you.
OK, murder then. Also, overdue library books.
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Old Thu Aug 27, 2009, 02:09pm
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Also, overdue library books.
Was there malicious intnet?
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Old Thu Aug 27, 2009, 02:35pm
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Was there malicious intnet?
Isn't the intnet full of malicious code?
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Old Thu Aug 27, 2009, 02:41pm
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BTW, I'm not positive I'd put murder in the automatic category either, although I must admit to some ambivalence on it.

If enough time had passed (and I'd say a 25 year prison sentence would be a lot of time), and the individual currently displays sufficient character, I'd be inclined to allow him to officiate. What exactly do we think he's going to do in an officiating environment?

That said, I wouldn't have a hard time accepting the decision to leave these folks out, either. There is significance to the point that there are certain crimes that will forever alter a person's ability to participate in society.

M&M, I have no desire to find out what you checked out of the library. My officiating fees don't cover the required therapy.
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BTW, I'm not positive I'd put murder in the automatic category either, although I must admit to some ambivalence on it.

If enough time had passed (and I'd say a 25 year prison sentence would be a lot of time), and the individual currently displays sufficient character, I'd be inclined to allow him to officiate. What exactly do we think he's going to do in an officiating environment?

That said, I wouldn't have a hard time accepting the decision to leave these folks out, either. There is significance to the point that there are certain crimes that will forever alter a person's ability to participate in society.
There are certain choices that people make that permanently close doors to them....even after 50 years of great behavior. Even if they might be OK now, they made their bed a long time ago. The end of a prison sentence never makes the infraction go away or the victim return to life (in the case of murder/manslaughter) or makes the victim's hurt go away (rape). Someone who criminally takes another person's life or rapes someone, has made their own choice to give up a lot of opportunities. They can't undo thier crime...so they can't undo their choice and recover what they lost.
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Old Thu Aug 27, 2009, 07:28pm
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There are certain choices that people make that permanently close doors to them....even after 50 years of great behavior. Even if they might be OK now, they made their bed a long time ago. The end of a prison sentence never makes the infraction go away or the victim return to life (in the case of murder/manslaughter) or makes the victim's hurt go away (rape). Someone who criminally takes another person's life or rapes someone, has made their own choice to give up a lot of opportunities. They can't undo thier crime...so they can't undo their choice and recover what they lost.
You didn't explain why one of those closed doors should be sports officiating.
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