Shot at wrong basket.

[donj]

Player gets confused and shoots at wrong basket and misses. Ball hits rim during shot and there was no call by official for any dribbling violation. Was this correct? Also, if shot was taken and ball does not make contact with rim, just backboard, is this then a double dribble violation? Please state rule and/or case number for this situation. Thanks

[ur call]

What if he was fouled while in the act?

[Danvrapp]

I would have to say this is a double dribble. It's certainly not a shot (try), because the definition for a try is an attempt to throw the ball in the players own basket (which in this case didn't happen). Since a dribble ends when a player catches the ball with two hands (which presumedly happens here after the faux "shot"), I'd have a violation if they dribble again.

Sorry for lack of rule numbers, but I don't have-a de book, boss.

[Danvrapp]

I would have to say this is a double dribble. It's certainly not a shot (try), because the definition for a try is an attempt to throw the ball in the players own basket (which in this case didn't happen). Since a dribble ends when a player catches the ball with two hands (which presumedly happens here after the faux "shot"), I'd have a violation if they dribble again.

In addition, since it's not a "try," the reward for being fouled while "shooting" at the wrong basket would be ball out of bounds.

Sorry for lack of rule numbers, but I don't have-a de book, boss.

[donj]

If I'm correct, this wouldn't be considered a shooting foul since it was at the wrong basket. If the team fouled were in the bonus situation, foul shots then, otherwise ball would be passed in at the baseline.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by donj
Player gets confused and shoots at wrong basket and misses. Ball hits rim during shot and there was no call by official for any dribbling violation. Was this correct?

Did the official realize that the player was shooting at the wrong basket or was it only the player?

Peace

[Brian Watson]

A call depends on the the sitch.

If it was the start of the period and the officals pointed him in the wrong direction, I got nothing.

If it is mid quarter, then it is another lesson learned.

[devdog69]

Originally posted by ur call
What if he was fouled while in the act?

It's not a shooting foul, just a common foul. Unless of course, this was at the beginning of the game and both teams were confused, but that is a whole other can of worms.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by donj
Player gets confused and shoots at wrong basket and misses. Ball hits rim during shot and there was no call by official for any dribbling violation. Was this correct? Also, if shot was taken and ball does not make contact with rim, just backboard, is this then a double dribble violation? Please state rule and/or case number for this situation. Thanks

Throwing the ball against your opponents backboard is the same as dribbling. That doesn't mean that it's automatically double dribbling. It's only a double dribble if:

1- He dribbled, "shot" the ball, and hit the backboard or

2- He "shot" the ball, hit the backboard, got the "rebound" and then dribbled.

I don't believe the rim is referenced in the rule and I'm sans rule book at the moment.

[PAULK1]

we need to know if the player dribbled prior to the release.

If the player dribbled before the release and:

1. The ball hits the opponents backboard = Illegal dribble

2. The ball hits the opponents rim and the player is the first to touch = Travel

3. The ball hits the opponents rim and another player is the first to touch = pass(legal play)

If the player did not dribbled and jumped before the release and:

1. The ball hits the opponents backboard = Travel

2. The ball hits the opponents rim and the player is the
first to touch = Travel

3. The ball hits the opponents rim and another player is the first to touch = pass(legal play)

If the player did not dribbled and did not jumped before the release and:

1. The ball hits the opponents backboard = Legal play
the player may continue the dribble or recover the ball
and shoot or pass.

[donj]

Sorry, I guess I did fail to mention that the player did dribble before the shot was taken at the wrong basket, retrieved the ball as it came off the glass and did not hit another player. So from what I understand from reading the previous post, this was a violation a should have been called. Thanks.

[Hawks Coach]

Originally posted by PAULK1
we need to know if the player dribbled prior to the release.

If the player did not dribbled and did not jumped before the release and:

1. The ball hits the opponents backboard = Legal play
the player may continue the dribble or recover the ball
and shoot or pass.

As long as player continues dri9bble rather than catching and dribbling. In the latter case, double dribble.

[PAULK1]

"As long as player continues dri9bble rather than catching and dribbling. In the latter case, double dribble."

Thats what I was trying to say, maybe I worded it wrong.

[devdog69]

Originally posted by PAULK1
we need to know if the player dribbled prior to the release.

If the player dribbled before the release and:

1. The ball hits the opponents backboard = Illegal dribble

Would someone like to explain why this is a double dribble? I don't beleive it is unless the player is the one to catch the ball after it hits the backboard. It would be similar to a player who dribbles then releases a two-handed bounce pass, imo. Just looking to nitpik, since I ain't touching that conspiracy theory thread with a ten foot pole.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by devdog69

Would someone like to explain why this is a double dribble? I don't beleive it is unless the player is the one to catch the ball after it hits the backboard. It would be similar to a player who dribbles then releases a two-handed bounce pass, imo. Just looking to nitpik, since I ain't touching that conspiracy theory thread with a ten foot pole.

This is not an automatic double dribble, but probably would be one based on the laws of physics.

In order to get the ball to hit the backboard, the player will (most likely) have to cause the dribble to end - either from touching the ball with both hands or by carrying the ball (if it comes to rest in just one hand).

If a player releases a two-handed bounce pass, and he then goes after it and keeps dribbling - you know it's a dribble, not a pass, and call the violation.