Is this a "pass"?

[ILMalti]

According to 4.31 a pass is defined "... the movement of the ball caused by a player who throws, bats or rolls the ball to another player"

Scenario : A1 has dribbled and come to a full stop. Holding the ball in the plam of one of his hands. A2 comes along and picks ball up.

Should this be considered a pass? If so on what rule?

If A2 picks the ball and puts it back into A1 hand, can A1 start a dribble?

[Adam]

Whether it's a pass is irrelevant. Once A2 touches the ball, A1 may once again dribble when he regains possession.

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Whether it's a pass is irrelevant. Once A2 touches the ball, A1 may once again dribble when he regains possession.

So, all A2 has to do is "touch" the ball in A1's hand and A1 can dribble again? If A1 uses his dribble, gets trapped and gets someone to touch the ball, he can dribble again? Is that right?

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

So, all A2 has to do is "touch" the ball in A1's hand and A1 can dribble again?

Negative coach...

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

If A1 uses his dribble, gets trapped and gets someone to touch the ball, he can dribble again? Is that right?

Kinda, sorta, in a way.

9-5 reads:

A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of:
ART 1... A try for field goal.
ART 2... A touch by an opponent.
ART 3... A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by, another player.

[ILMalti]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Kinda, sorta, in a way.

9-5 reads:

A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of:
ART 1... A try for field goal.
ART 2... A touch by an opponent.
ART 3... A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by, another player.

For this thread Key words would be "Lost control" and "A touch by an opponent" ; Is this correct?

I'd have to say no, I was addressing Coach Bill's questions.

Scenario : A1 has dribbled and come to a full stop (A1 has PC). Holding the ball in the plam of one of his hands. A2 comes along and picks ball up (now A2 has PC).

If A2 picks the ball and puts it back into A1 hand, can A1 start a dribble? A1 has regained PC, so yes.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

So, all A2 has to do is "touch" the ball in A1's hand and A1 can dribble again? If A1 uses his dribble, gets trapped and gets someone to touch the ball, he can dribble again? Is that right?

No, he has to lose control and have the ball touched by another player.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ILMalti

According to 4.31 a pass is defined "... the movement of the ball caused by a player who throws, bats or rolls the ball to another player"

Scenario : A1 has dribbled and come to a full stop. Holding the ball in the plam of one of his hands. A2 comes along and picks ball up.

Should this be considered a pass? If so on what rule?

If A2 picks the ball and puts it back into A1 hand, can A1 start a dribble?

Whether you consider it a pass or not doesn't matter. Based on what you wrote player control transferred from A1 to A2 back to A1.

[ILMalti]

Yes of course, thank you. I should have not included the last question; it defused the real question.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by ILMalti

Yes of course, thank you. I should have not included the last question; it defused the real question.

Okay, I assumed you asked the first question to answer the 2nd. My answer to the question, though, is it probably isn't a pass by rule, but it doesn't matter.

[ILMalti]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Okay, I assumed you asked the first question to answer the 2nd. My answer to the question, though, is it probably isn't a pass by rule, but it doesn't matter.

I am trying to understand if Player control is ever lost at the point that A2 takes the ball from A1 hand, that is how this all started. A pass would leave TC but no PC, In this situation PC is retained continously, in my thinking

Originally Posted by ILMalti

In this situation PC is retained continously, in my thinking

Nope, see post #3. BNR broke it down for ya.

Originally Posted by ILMalti

Should this be considered a pass? If so on what rule?

If A2 picks the ball and puts it back into A1 hand, can A1 start a dribble?

I got an offensive steal

When A1s "pass" was touched by, or touched, another player (A2) he/she may start a new dribble.