NBA playoffs (NBA haters stay away)

[Jay R]

In the Boston Atlanta game the other night, there was an interesting situation. Bill Kennedy called a foul in the open floor and was bowled over by JR Smith in the process. Kennedy was lucky he wasn't seriously hurt. What was unique is that we got a rare close up of the interaction between Kennedy and Steve Javie. Before getting back up, Kennedy verified with Javie that the foul was on Smith and that it wasn't a clear path foul. Neat to see that he was still focused on reporting the call even though he had been knocked down pretty hard.

And last night in a very physical game in LA, there were 5 technicals and a flagrant 2 foul called. Joe Crawford called every technical and the flagrant as far as I could tell. The NBA brass might have suspended him last year but you've got to think they were glad he was doing the game last night. He took control the way you expect a veteran crew chief to do so.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Jay R

In the Boston Atlanta game the other night, there was an interesting situation. Bill Kennedy called a foul in the open floor and was bowled over by JR Smith in the process. Kennedy was lucky he wasn't seriously hurt. What was unique is that we got a rare close up of the interaction between Kennedy and Steve Javie. Before getting back up, Kennedy verified with Javie that the foul was on Smith and that it wasn't a clear path foul. Neat to see that he was still focused on reporting the call even though he had been knocked down pretty hard.

And last night in a very physical game in LA, there were 5 technicals and a flagrant 2 foul called. Joe Crawford called every technical and the flagrant as far as I could tell. The NBA brass might have suspended him last year but you've got to think they were glad he was doing the game last night. He took control the way you expect a veteran crew chief to do so.

I thought the same exact thing about Crawford. He's the man! He didn't really and truly call the flagrant. He was the one who went to the monitor and confirmed it though.

Glad to see there is at least 1 NBA viewer on this site. haha

[grunewar]

Atlanta vs Cleveland tonight. Early second quarter. Cszerbiak (sp) makes a nice spin move and banks the ball in on a nice fall away jumper. He falls to the ground. Two Cleveland bench players in sweats, jump up and onto the court and help him to his feet so he can hustle down court to get back on D as the ball is going the other way quickly. Anything in the NBA rules on that?

It sure looked weird as I can't recall ever seeing it in one of my HS games.

[APG]

Joe Crawford and the rest of the crew were certainly on top of things and did what I think was a good job in maintaining order. Quick question:

The Ron Artest ejection. Almost all the talking heads at ESPN, TNT, etc, were commenting on how Ron shouldn't of been ejected. I thought the fact that Artest jogged almost the length of the court to confront Kobe, and the fact that after Joe got between the two and he was still being demonstrative and confrontational even after being told to calm down, made the ejection all that easier. Thoughts?

[AKOFL]

That kind of display shouldn't be allowed at any level. what does it have to do with basketball?

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Joe Crawford and the rest of the crew were certainly on top of things and did what I think was a good job in maintaining order. Quick question:

The Ron Artest ejection. Almost all the talking heads at ESPN, TNT, etc, were commenting on how Ron shouldn't of been ejected. I thought the fact that Artest jogged almost the length of the court to confront Kobe, and the fact that after Joe got between the two and he was still being demonstrative and confrontational even after being told to calm down, made the ejection all that easier. Thoughts?

No brainer. Crawford had already had to go into both teams huddles to warn the teams that the jawing was getting out of hand.

Bryant as usual, gets the benefit of doubt as he wasn't suspended for an elbow above the shoulders.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

No brainer. Crawford had already had to go into both teams huddles to warn the teams that the jawing was getting out of hand.

Bryant as usual, gets the benefit of doubt as he wasn't suspended for an elbow above the shoulders.

From everything I saw, that elbow was below shoulder level.

[zm1283]

I'm pretty surprised that Artest got a Flagrant 2 in Game 3 against the Lakers. Looked like an intentional to me at worst.

[CLH]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I'm pretty surprised that Artest got a Flagrant 2 in Game 3 against the Lakers. Looked like an intentional to me at worst.

Intentional fouls are not in the NBA rulebook

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by Jay R

In the Boston Atlanta game the other night, there was an interesting situation. Bill Kennedy called a foul in the open floor and was bowled over by JR Smith in the process. Kennedy was lucky he wasn't seriously hurt. What was unique is that we got a rare close up of the interaction between Kennedy and Steve Javie. Before getting back up, Kennedy verified with Javie that the foul was on Smith and that it wasn't a clear path foul. Neat to see that he was still focused on reporting the call even though he had been knocked down pretty hard.

And last night in a very physical game in LA, there were 5 technicals and a flagrant 2 foul called. Joe Crawford called every technical and the flagrant as far as I could tell. The NBA brass might have suspended him last year but you've got to think they were glad he was doing the game last night. He took control the way you expect a veteran crew chief to do so.

Serious question, what's a clear path foul?

[CLH]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Serious question, what's a clear path foul?

If a fast break starts in a team’s backcourt and a defender fouls any offensive player when the team is going to score an easy basket, a clear path foul has occurred. When the foul happens, no defender can be ahead of the ball where he could establish a position between the ball and the basket.

**2 shots and the ball side out

[Kelvin green]

Originally Posted by CLH

If a fast break starts in a team’s backcourt and a defender fouls any offensive player when the team is going to score an easy basket, a clear path foul has occurred. When the foul happens, no defender can be ahead of the ball where he could establish a position between the ball and the basket.

**2 shots and the ball side out

Not quite but close...Here is the exact rule...

The ball and an offensive player must be positioned between the tip-of-circle extended in the backcourt and the basket in the frontcourt, with no defender between the ball and the basket when the personal foul occurs.

There must be team possession and the new play must originate in
the backcourt, including throw-ins, and the offended team must be deprived of an opportunity to score an uncontested basket

[Nevadaref]

I see that Boston employed their previously discussed strategy of "wrapping up" the opponent in fouling near the end of the game. They did this with under ten seconds remaining while ahead by three in order to prevent an Orlando player from attempting a game-tying three point shot.

Did the NBA officials call anything other than a normal foul? Nope.

Boston is allowed to cheat and benefit from it.

[refguy]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I see that Boston employed their previously discussed strategy of "wrapping up" the opponent in fouling near the end of the game. They did this with under ten seconds remaining while ahead by three in order to prevent an Orlando player from attempting a game-tying three point shot.

Did the NBA officials call anything other than a normal foul? Nope.

Boston is allowed to cheat and benefit from it.

It's not cheating when by rule, they couldn't have called anything else. There is is no intentional foul in the NBA. How many times have we seen Shaq wrapped up like that for a common foul? I really think it would improve their game to add an intentional foul to the book. I'll never understand why it's not there. They want the most entertaining product and yet players are allowed to do that within the rules with no additional penalty. It makes for far too many plays where the defender doesn't even try to play defense legally. It could be such a beautiful game more often and more continuously. Instead, it's - oops, my man just beat me, let me wrap him up. Ridiculous.