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Coach Bill Tue Jun 09, 2009 03:59pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 607790)
First of all, I appreciate coaches like yourself who know their rules!!
Beats the heck out of the freshman coach I had last night who says his player was fouled because he was contacted on his hand during the shot :rolleyes:
Wish I would've handled that in a better way, but that's another story.

I wouldn't bring out a rulebook during halftime or right after the game. Instead I'd try this approach:

"This is your ballgame to manage, with all due respect, I think your ruling is incorrect. If we can discuss it later I'm willing to put a steak dinner of MY choice on the line."

I like that. I don't get the call changed, but I never was going to anyway, and the situation is diffused, calming myself down.

And, as far as bringing out the rulebook, the one time I made a move to get the rulebook out, I was told very sternly:

"You bring that rulebook out, and we're gonna have a problem".

It wasn't a physical threat (I think), but a "you're gonna get tossed" threat. I posted that story on here awhile back, and everyone made it very clear that the rulebook is a big no-no.

Adam Tue Jun 09, 2009 04:09pm

Right, for a variety of reasons, it's a no-no in basketball. With me, a smile and a "I think you're wrong on that rule," if said quietly and discretely, might work. It won't change a call or ruling, but it will spur me to check the book later.

Amesman Tue Jun 09, 2009 04:58pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 607790)
Beats the heck out of the freshman coach I had last night who says his player was fouled because he was contacted on his hand during the shot :rolleyes:
Wish I would've handled that in a better way, but that's another story.
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OK, Ch1, the floor is yours. We don't run out of paper or ink on this here Internet thing.

Ch1town Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:42pm

Okay but I'm embarassed about it. So for a summer league, coach is kind of loud & vocal about me "missing the foul". My first mistake was addressing it during a live ball in transition :eek:

I ask him where did he get him at?
He says on the hand, didn't you hear it :eek: :eek:
I say you must not be the HEAD freshman coach... because contact on the hand while a player is shooting is not a foul... while they are holding the ball or dribbling the ball either for that matter. (in a not so calm manner) :o

He didn't say another word for the whole game, he barely coached his kids. I think I embarassed him in front of his kids & I'm not too proud of that. It was unacceptable to my standards & disrespectful... even though he was out of line & wrong (my pet peeve). But someday he'll be a head varsity or NCAA coach.
I plan to apologize to him when I work there next Wednesday.

SmokeEater Wed Jun 10, 2009 07:54am

A local University Assistant Coach, who is the Varsity Head Coach at a high school where I work called me over this season after a call.

She said, "I know you made the call the way you saw it and thats fine. I understand the ruling to be this. She proceeded to make a short statement about her interp. She concluded to say I would appreciate it if you could look it up and get back to me in case I am mistaken."

I tell you she was a class act, made the whole situation be about making sure we both were understanding the call. I looked up the ruling at half time and found out that what I had called was correct but how I adminsitered after the call was incorrect.

She thanked me for looking and said not many would do that and tell her what they found.

bob jenkins Wed Jun 10, 2009 08:05am

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Originally Posted by SmokeEater (Post 607958)
She said, "I know you made the call the way you saw it and thats fine. I understand the ruling to be this. She proceeded to make a short statement about her interp. She concluded to say I would appreciate it if you could look it up and get back to me in case I am mistaken."


That's usually the approach that works for (on) me. If it's during the game, maybe a polite request to check with the other officials on the rule.


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