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Old Thu Jun 04, 2009, 12:55pm
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First of all, congratulations on moving up the ranks to work a higher level of ball!

When working 2 person we really get to see how significant the slot position truly is.

In your scenario I think the T has to recognize (from your body & head position) when you need help on those type of plays. Many times team officiating is the key to helping a partner with tough angles & getting screened out.

Even though we "referee the defense" we need to "see the whole play" while keeping as many players as possible in our field of vision.

Taking a step or two off the endline & pinching the paint usually helps me to get in the right position.

If that doesn't help me, then I make sure I call what I see & see what I'm calling. In other words, if I position adjust & still can't see it then I don't guess.

I always let my partner know, that I don't have an ego & if they see something in my PCA that I obviously missed, please come get it for the sake of the game. BUT allow me the opportunity to get it first as I'm working on a patient whistle.
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Old Thu Jun 04, 2009, 02:09pm
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Pinch the paint and step off the baseline. But in 2-man you definitely have move a lot to get good angles and cover your whole primary.
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Old Thu Jun 04, 2009, 03:52pm
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Hopefully, with the ball in front of you as L, your partner has moved towards the center of the floor to pick up the paint. If he/she has, he/she should be able to help you, even though, technically, it's in your primary. But if your partner is still hugging their sideline, as others have said, try to get deeper.

That's a tough one if your partner hasn't moved off-ball with the ball in your primary.
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Old Thu Jun 04, 2009, 05:05pm
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Pinch the paint and step off the baseline. But in 2-man you definitely have move a lot to get good angles and cover your whole primary.
I don't think that one can state that as the clear solution. I'm not contending that it is incorrect, but that it is likely only part of the remedy.

The answer to his problem may be to move out wider towards the corner.

It depends upon where the other players are and in which direction they move during the play. The Lead has to find a place along the end line from where he has the best possible view. That could meaning moving either in or out. How to know which to do? That is the art aspect of officiating.

I agree with the rest of what you said.
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Old Fri Jun 05, 2009, 07:18am
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Thanks for the advice. It was something I noticed about my game during the game, but didn't really recognize the problem until the next day. I basically just said to myself, "damn, I didn't get a good look at that drive, I'd better get into the lane"...

I wound up giving the players in front of me a last look to make sure there was no funny stuff going on, and diving into the lane to see the drive. Backing up a bit might have helped, but I still would have had to move pretty quickly.

Something to pregame, it seems.

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Old Fri Jun 05, 2009, 07:41am
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I don't think that one can state that as the clear solution. I'm not contending that it is incorrect, but that it is likely only part of the remedy.

The answer to his problem may be to move out wider towards the corner.

It depends upon where the other players are and in which direction they move during the play. The Lead has to find a place along the end line from where he has the best possible view. That could meaning moving either in or out. How to know which to do? That is the art aspect of officiating.

I agree with the rest of what you said.
In the OP A2 gets the ball at the free throw elbow and dives to the basket. The L was already wide because the play started in the corner. I'm assuming that since A2 went from the FT elbow directly to the basket that there is no traffic along the FT lane line that would block the L's view if he pinched the paint (while staying a couple steps off the baseline to keep his vision broad).

Guess it depends on how you envision this particular play.
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Old Fri Jun 05, 2009, 11:24am
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I don't see how there can be any other naswer than to keep moving. That's what every post is saying.
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Old Fri Jun 05, 2009, 12:04pm
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I don't see how there can be any other naswer than to keep moving. That's what every post is saying.
Agreed. There is no magic, one spot fits all situations, spot on the baseline where we can suddenly see every single play perfectly. The key is to "fight for the angle" as they like to tell us at camps. If you're in a spot where you can't see what's happening, move to get an angle on that play. Then when the play changes, move again. You can't just stand in one spot as Lead.
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