Fan rules

[zm1283]

You could apply these not just to fans, but to coaches as well, and unfortunately a couple of officials that I've worked with.

Side note: A good number of coaches are really latched on to the "If the defense ever touches the ball there can't be a backcourt" myth. It seems like every time I call "last to touch, first to touch" as a BC violation on the offense, I get that argument from their coach that "The defense touched it!".

[26 Year Gap]

Shouldn't the 3 second count commence after a made basket?

[Nevadaref]

How could you omit "officials shouldn't make a call that decides the game" from the list!

[26 Year Gap]

Okay, I will modify it.

It is 3 seconds when someone in the crowd says it is 3 seconds.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Okay, I will modify it.

It is 3 seconds when someone in the crowd says it is 3 seconds.

Doing a recent provincial U15 championships round robin game.

Loud mouth dad in the stands. I sooooooo wanted to put him in his place. (Is that bad?)

Players are doing a decent job getting in and out of the key. I used my voice a bit to avoid a violation. Couple trips down the court later, player goes in the key. Dad says "1" right away. Then "2" right after. Then "3" which was about 1 second after he said "1". Then "4" and "5" and then the shot goes up. It hits rim, he's now at "7". The ball is tipped around a bit and before someone gets a hold of it, dad is at "10".

He clearly is ignorant about the rule at this point. I kept wondering if I should toss him on the basis on the Ontario Fair Play Rule.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Doing a recent provincial U15 championships round robin game.

Loud mouth dad in the stands. I sooooooo wanted to put him in his place. (Is that bad?)

Players are doing a decent job getting in and out of the key. I used my voice a bit to avoid a violation. Couple trips down the court later, player goes in the key. Dad says "1" right away. Then "2" right after. Then "3" which was about 1 second after he said "1". Then "4" and "5" and then the shot goes up. It hits rim, he's now at "7". The ball is tipped around a bit and before someone gets a hold of it, dad is at "10".

He clearly is ignorant about the rule at this point. I kept wondering if I should toss him on the basis on the Ontario Fair Play Rule.

I'd like to see anyone quote that rule in one breath.

[Fritz]

Here's a variation that I had in a JV game earlier this year; as soon as a goal was scored, the scoring team's parents AND even players, started counting 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 in order to draw a five second count on the ensuing inbound. Of course, their 5 seconds took about 2 1/2 to count and they never bothered to wait until the other team had access to or control of the ball.

I asked one of the players what he was doing during a short break and he said their HC felt they got hosed in a game a couple of weeks earlier on a non-5 second call and so the coach required them all to now count the seconds. And the parents then got into the act. Of course, what it really did was cause the other team to rush their inbounds thinking they were out of time.

So I went over to the HC and told him to have his players knock it off ASAP or he would get hit with a T for unsportsmanlike. He complied, but felt that officials in general don't start the count soon enough - which he said should be as soon as the ball goes through the goal.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Doing a recent provincial U15 championships round robin game.

Loud mouth dad in the stands. I sooooooo wanted to put him in his place. (Is that bad?)

Players are doing a decent job getting in and out of the key. I used my voice a bit to avoid a violation. Couple trips down the court later, player goes in the key. Dad says "1" right away. Then "2" right after. Then "3" which was about 1 second after he said "1". Then "4" and "5" and then the shot goes up. It hits rim, he's now at "7". The ball is tipped around a bit and before someone gets a hold of it, dad is at "10".

He clearly is ignorant about the rule at this point. I kept wondering if I should toss him on the basis on the Ontario Fair Play Rule.

"Sir, every time you do that it makes me lose count and I have to start over."

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

"Sir, every time you do that it makes me lose count and I have to start over."

Or make sure you have autographed photos of the Counting Count from Sesame Street you can hand out.