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26 Year Gap Tue Mar 31, 2009 06:25pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 592961)
Oh, I see what you are saying. He was going to write Mr. Adams and post that letter here, but sans his name.

Might have to change his username.

Adam Tue Mar 31, 2009 06:37pm

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Originally Posted by 26 year gap (Post 593056)
might have to change his username.

rotflmao!

Raymond Tue Mar 31, 2009 07:13pm

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Originally Posted by walter (Post 593024)
...As for the issue raised in the original post, the last thing I will say is none of us have seen the letter that was sent raising the question and none of us have seen the response, if any...

I wouldn't assume that. ;)

Forksref Tue Mar 31, 2009 07:18pm

I just wasted 10 min. reading this thread.

If anyone wants more of a certain minority to be represented at the top, then go out and recruit more of that minority to begin at the entry level.

BillyMac Tue Mar 31, 2009 07:40pm

We Want You ...
 
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Originally Posted by Forksref (Post 593068)
If anyone wants more of a certain minority to be represented at the top, then go out and recruit more of that minority to begin at the entry level.

Makes sense to me. My local IAABO board, and IAABO in general, is trying to recruit more female officials.

tomegun Tue Mar 31, 2009 08:11pm

First I want to say that I know several officials who post here, to include Brad, personally and I would hope they all know race is not something that keeps me from treating anyone fairly. Now on to my point.

Do the people on this board realize that blacks have historically been kept out of certain positions because it was perceived we weren't smart enough? Management positions, coaches, quarterbacks, etc. At one time black teams weren't supposed to be smart enough to defeat a white team. I say that to ask again, do you really think none of this prejudice impacts officiating?

In addition to the perceived notion that we aren't smart enough, there is the issue of the good old boy network that is D1 assigners. I know there are several D1 assigners who are black, but there are still those who aren't and could have a long history of hatred.

This discussion shouldn't be a lecture, but it shouldn't be so easily blown off either. The race card exists and we need to ask ourselves why. I'm also wondering if those who blow this off would blow it off so easily if we were talking gender.

tomegun Tue Mar 31, 2009 08:12pm

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Originally Posted by Forksref (Post 593068)
I just wasted 10 min. reading this thread.

If anyone wants more of a certain minority to be represented at the top, then go out and recruit more of that minority to begin at the entry level.

You are not informed. There are several black officials at the entry level.

BBall_Junkie Tue Mar 31, 2009 08:46pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 592998)
After reading through this thread and the previous ones, I guess I'm wondering, why does have race matter (in both directions)?

If black, white, hispanic, asian, etc officials are being held back due to their race, then that isn't right and it should be addressed. The officials that do the best should be the ones to advance but obviously, there are many factors that come into play when we look at the preferences and prejudices of supervisors. It is an ideal but why not work towards it?

Me personally, I don't care if my partner is black, white, asian, hispanic, blue or purple...I just care they can do a good job.

"To hell with purple people... Unless they are suffocating. Then help 'em."

-Mitch Hedberg

JRutledge Tue Mar 31, 2009 08:48pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 593087)
This discussion shouldn't be a lecture, but it shouldn't be so easily blown off either. The race card exists and we need to ask ourselves why. I'm also wondering if those who blow this off would blow it off so easily if we were talking gender.

There are people that come unglued because you say you do not like Women's basketball. ;)

Peace

26 Year Gap Tue Mar 31, 2009 08:56pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 593095)
There are people that come unglued because you say you do not like Women's basketball. ;)

Peace

Shoot. I missed the game tonight.

Well, there is a hockey game on, so I think I will get over it.

JRutledge Tue Mar 31, 2009 09:00pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 593099)
Shoot. I missed the game tonight.

Well, there is a hockey game on, so I think I will get over it.

Damn, I missed a hockey game? :)

Peace

DonInKansas Tue Mar 31, 2009 09:06pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 593099)

Well, there is a hockey game on, so I think I will get over it.

A Florida cat watching hockey? Whoa....:p

26 Year Gap Tue Mar 31, 2009 09:09pm

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Originally Posted by DonInKansas (Post 593105)
A Florida cat watching hockey? Whoa....:p

I'm a recent transplant & the Habs are on.

26 Year Gap Tue Mar 31, 2009 09:10pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 593101)
Damn, I missed a hockey game? :)

Peace

I am guessing it was not because you had the WNCAA game on.;)

JRutledge Tue Mar 31, 2009 09:11pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 593108)
I am guessing it was not because you had the WNCAA game on.;)

Worse, NIT.

Peace


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