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Old Mon Mar 30, 2009, 03:17pm
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Looks like I'm alone on this one, but I like the current Fed rule of entering on the rim-hit. In the instances where I've worked games where players enter on release, it seems there is a lot more severe contact and jockeying prior to the rebound. Maybe it's just the leagues I've worked (wreck boys & men's).

I don't think the Fed is interested in changing to be consistent with NCAA rules. I think they generally lean toward safety and limitations on rough play. Thus, I doubt it will change anytime soon.
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Old Mon Mar 30, 2009, 04:11pm
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Looks like I'm alone on this one, but I like the current Fed rule of entering on the rim-hit.
Or the backboard-hit. Don't forget this. I hear lots of officials tell players, "Wait 'till it hits the rim". It can hit the backboard first and then hit the rim, be a legal shot and players are allowed to enter when it hits the backboard first. Telling them they have to wait until the ball hits the rim before they can enter the lane is erroneous information.
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Old Mon Mar 30, 2009, 04:17pm
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Or the backboard-hit. Don't forget this. I hear lots of officials tell players, "Wait 'till it hits the rim". It can hit the backboard first and then hit the rim, be a legal shot and players are allowed to enter when it hits the backboard first. Telling them they have to wait until the ball hits the rim before they can enter the lane is erroneous information.
If it definitely one of my pet peeves, when my partner says, "Let it hit the rim." Every time I hear that, I cringe.

I prefer to bounce the ball and say, "Let it hit before you get in."
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Old Mon Mar 30, 2009, 05:03pm
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I prefer to bounce the ball and say, "Let it hit before you get in."
I prefer to say, "One shot", or whatever the number of free throws will be, and then bounce the ball.
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Old Mon Mar 30, 2009, 06:01pm
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I prefer to say, "One shot", or whatever the number of free throws will be, and then bounce the ball.
Ditto. I learned this on this forum this year. I used to say "Let it hit", but now I just use the "One shot" or "Two shots" or "One and one".
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Old Mon Mar 30, 2009, 06:27pm
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When a kid shoots an air ball and then has another shot coming, when I throw it back to him I say, "Boy, that sucked". Usually they laugh and say, "Yeah".

I don't do that too much in 3rd grade games, however.
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Old Mon Mar 30, 2009, 08:45pm
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Ditto. I learned this on this forum this year. I used to say "Let it hit", but now I just use the "One shot" or "Two shots" or "One and one".
One of my minor headaches is when partners say "wait til it hits the rim."

I always said "let it hit" prior to this season. I decided (due in large part to input from here) that less is more. Now, I just say the number.

"One."
"Two."
"Three

I figure I don't even need to say "shot" since they all know why they're standing there.

If players are inching on or over the line prior to the ball being handed in, or if I see a player on the first of two with his toe on the line, I'll add "watch your toes" to the mix.

I also agree with the lady from the west coast; lower levels sometimes require a bit extra to keep the headaches to a minimum.

And, FWIW, I think it's easier on the hit since there's a sound to go with. That said, I don't care either way. I played on the release, and started reffing middle school that way in college. I quit for a few years, and it was on the hit since then.

It probably belongs in the same category as the coach requesting a timeout. Might be better with a change but it's not likely to happen.
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I prefer to say, "One shot", or whatever the number of free throws will be, and then bounce the ball.
I did quite a few 5th grade games this year where it was clear that players hadn't ever played before. In those games, I say, "Wait till it hits", at least in the second half. In the first half I say, "Okay kids, don't step in until the ball hits something, got it? Stay in your spots until it's legal" Coaches actually appreciate this.
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I prefer to say, "One shot", or whatever the number of free throws will be, and then bounce the ball.
A fan told me of an official who USED to say, "Shoot one." Or, "Shoot two." The guy went up to him later and asked why he said "Shoot two" when there were 3 officials and wondered which two should be shot. The official shortened it to "One" or "Two".

This fan also showed up to the opener one year to razz that same official and called to him before the tip to reveal his 'foot locker shirt'. The official smiled at him, unzipped his jacket and revealed that the crew was going with grey that night. Everyone had a good chuckle over that.
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If it definitely one of my pet peeves, when my partner says, "Let it hit the rim." Every time I hear that, I cringe.

I prefer to bounce the ball and say, "Let it hit before you get in."
Generally, anything beyond "One", "One and one", "Two", or "Three" is bothersome to me.
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