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Nevadaref Mon Mar 23, 2009 03:20am

This was the final game of the weekend for me up in Boise.

There were plenty of situations in it to discuss.

A few things which have not been mentioned so far:

1. Officials consult the monitor regarding a shot clock violation call with 1:13 remaining.

2. The block/charge with 5.5 seconds left.

3. Following the end line violation, Marquette fouls. The clock stops a bit slow. Marquette HC gesturing wildly and doing jumping jacks on the court to get the attention of the officials. They see him. He points to his wrist. One of the officials gives the same gesture in return. The first FT is then attempted. After it is successful the Marquette HC takes a time-out and when the officials come over, he is able to get them to check the monitor for the game clock. It is reset from 4.4 to 5.0 and then the 2nd FT is attempted.

4. The inadvertant whistle with 36.1 seconds remaining in the first half.

GoodwillRef Mon Mar 23, 2009 06:26am

1. Officials can go to the monitor to see if the ball hit the rim...this was the correct call and procedure.

2. This was an obvious blocking foul on Marquette.

3. I thought they handled this well...they had a few clock issues in the game...out of the officials control.

grunewar Mon Mar 23, 2009 06:36am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 590562)
Actually, I believe after the violation, which was undeniable, the coach was telling his team: "We have to foul."

JAR, could be.

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 590571)
Marquette HC gesturing wildly and doing jumping jacks on the court to get the attention of the officials. They see him. He points to his wrist.

I tell you what though, in several of those games where it came down to the end and controversial calls, some of those coaches were way, way out on the court!

GoodwillRef Mon Mar 23, 2009 06:57am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 590582)
JAR, could be.

I tell you what though, in several of those games where it came down to the end and controversial calls, some of those coaches were way, way out on the court!

The Marquette Coach Buzz Williams lost his mind at the end of the game.

Raymond Mon Mar 23, 2009 07:49am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 590571)
This was the final game of the weekend for me up in Boise.

There were plenty of situations in it to discuss.

A few things which have not been mentioned so far:

1. Officials consult the monitor regarding a shot clock violation call with 1:13 remaining.

2. The block/charge with 5.5 seconds left.

3. Following the end line violation, Marquette fouls. The clock stops a bit slow. Marquette HC gesturing wildly and doing jumping jacks on the court to get the attention of the officials. They see him. He points to his wrist. One of the officials gives the same gesture in return. The first FT is then attempted. After it is successful the Marquette HC takes a time-out and when the officials come over, he is able to get them to check the monitor for the game clock. It is reset from 4.4 to 5.0 and then the 2nd FT is attempted.

4. The inadvertant whistle with 36.1 seconds remaining in the first half.


1) They checked to see if the ball hit the rim. It didn't and the clock expired before the put back by Marquette.

2) Block call was correct.

3) I was wondering what the HC was excited about.

4) Didn't see the 1st half

Adam Mon Mar 23, 2009 08:31am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 590562)
Actually, I believe after the violation, which was undeniable, the coach was telling his team: "We have to foul."

Exactly what I saw. I loved the call, but couldn't hear the announcers on it since we were at a restaurant.

My daughter ratted me out as soon as we sat down. "Dad, it's perfect for you, a big screen TV." Wife hadn't noticed yet.

"Do we need to switch places?"

"No, I'm good."

Adam Mon Mar 23, 2009 08:33am

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 590583)
The Marquette Coach Buzz Williams lost his mind at the end of the game.

Watching in silence, I thought he was gonna get a T when he didn't get that foul call he wanted on his out of control shooter.
And I agree the block call was spot on; defender was moving into the shooter when contact was made.

Adam Mon Mar 23, 2009 08:34am

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Originally Posted by ODJ (Post 590511)
Did anyone have a foul on that last shot? I did.
I know, I know, don't decide the game. C had no angle on it.

Please don't say this. If he had been fouled, not calling it would be deciding the game. In this case, though, there was no foul. The defender was moving in a straight line away from the shooter and the shooter initiated all the contact.

GoodwillRef Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:56am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 590608)
Watching in silence, I thought he was gonna get a T when he didn't get that foul call he wanted on his out of control shooter.
And I agree the block call was spot on; defender was moving into the shooter when contact was made.

HC for Marquette did a good job of putting his hand over his mouth while dropping f*Bombs on the referees during the last few seconds of the game.

GoodwillRef Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:56am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 590609)
Please don't say this. If he had been fouled, not calling it would be deciding the game. In this case, though, there was no foul. The defender was moving in a straight line away from the shooter and the shooter initiated all the contact.

It was a great no call.

Adam Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:57am

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 590670)
HC for Marquette did a good job of putting his hand over his mouth while dropping f*Bombs on the referees during the last few seconds of the game.

I saw he had his hand over his mouth; figured he was shouting instructions to his players. ;) Thought for sure he was gonna get a T.

JRutledge Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:57am

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 590670)
HC for Marquette did a good job of putting his hand over his mouth while dropping f*Bombs on the referees during the last few seconds of the game.

How do we know what he was saying to the official?

Peace

GoodwillRef Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:00am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 590673)
How do we know what he was saying to the official?

Peace

Just guessing by his actions and by covering his mouth so his lips couldn't be read...he wasn't letting them know they were doing a great job. Not sure they were actual f*bombs.

JRutledge Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:04am

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef (Post 590675)
Just guessing by his actions and by covering his mouth so his lips couldn't be read...he wasn't letting them know they were doing a great job. Not sure they were actual f*bombs.

I am sure he was saying something to the official, I just am not confident to say he was using profanity or saying something totally inappropriate. We just do not know unless the audio picked up something. And in watching it, all I can do is assume.

Peace

IUgrad92 Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:06am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 590673)
How do we know what he was saying to the official?

Peace

Exactly. How do we know he wasn't asking Cartmell if he wanted to join him for beers at the pub across the street in an hour?? :rolleyes:

Kudos to Cartmell for just ignoring him. Whacking him in those last few seconds would have just given him a bigger stage to throw his tantrum.


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