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Old Thu Mar 19, 2009, 11:16pm
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Looked similar to the Thabeet-Blair play earlier. This one looked flagrant rather than incidental
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Old Thu Mar 19, 2009, 11:20pm
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Looked similar to the Thabeet-Blair play earlier. This one looked flagrant rather than incidental
At least the Thabeet-Blair play, the players were fighting over the ball. These players were not near the ball and the player that flipped over Blake did a completely unnatural motion as it related to the game and situation.

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Old Thu Mar 19, 2009, 11:24pm
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At least the Thabeet-Blair play, the players were fighting over the ball. These players were not near the ball and the player that flipped over Blake did a completely unnatural motion as it related to the game and situation.

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Old Fri Mar 20, 2009, 09:59am
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Second ejection of the night in KC!

#34 for Morgan St. had already been talked to about rough play. He had picked up 3 fouls in less than 5 minutes of play. He was sent in due to foul trouble on the other two bigs.

IMO, Blake initiates alot of what happens to him. He is good at it too. He will take plenty of chances to get chucks and arm bars. He is strong enough to not let it show. Then the retaliation comes and they are not nearly as good as he is at it.

BTW, He did not just walk away and say nothing. He was screaming at the guy on the other end. THe cameras did not show that. He had a few finger points etc.

i have #34 two points for the take down though!
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Old Fri Mar 20, 2009, 11:41am
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Clearly a flagrant call, no doubt.

But, it seems on this one they could have blown the whistle sooner and avoided an ejection and a potential serious injury. Both players had been tangled for several steps with plenty of contact before the WWF move happened.

I only saw the replay, and I am missing context. Maybe they really were tangled up and the refs were letting them get untangled.
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Old Fri Mar 20, 2009, 04:31pm
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I did not see the play live; I have only seen replays of the play in question. I would also like to make full disclosure: I am a Kansas fan and not an Oklahoma fan but that does not have any bearing on my response below.

What did I see? I saw B1 (Oklahoma player) behind A1 (Morgan player) and facing A1's back when their arms became entangled and A1 attempted to untangle his arm from B1's arm. Yes it looked bad but A1 was had a more advantagous position that B1. At best this could have been incidental contact that looked bad or a common foul that looked bad by B1.

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Old Fri Mar 20, 2009, 07:18pm
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I did not see the play live; I have only seen replays of the play in question. I would also like to make full disclosure: I am a Kansas fan and not an Oklahoma fan but that does not have any bearing on my response below.

What did I see? I saw B1 (Oklahoma player) behind A1 (Morgan player) and facing A1's back when their arms became entangled and A1 attempted to untangle his arm from B1's arm. Yes it looked bad but A1 was had a more advantagous position that B1. At best this could have been incidental contact that looked bad or a common foul that looked bad by B1.

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That has to be the funniest post of the year.

There is no chance that A1 doesn't get some sort of foul on this play. A1 most definitely was not trying to untangle his arms. He held onto B1's arms, bent over using his body as a lever and catapulted B1 over him onto the floor.
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Old Fri Mar 20, 2009, 07:36pm
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I did not see the play live; I have only seen replays of the play in question. I would also like to make full disclosure: I am a Kansas fan and not an Oklahoma fan but that does not have any bearing on my response below.

What did I see? I saw B1 (Oklahoma player) behind A1 (Morgan player) and facing A1's back when their arms became entangled and A1 attempted to untangle his arm from B1's arm. Yes it looked bad but A1 was had a more advantagous position that B1. At best this could have been incidental contact that looked bad or a common foul that looked bad by B1.

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Old Fri Mar 20, 2009, 08:13pm
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What did I see? I saw B1 (Oklahoma player) behind A1 (Morgan player) and facing A1's back when their arms became entangled and A1 attempted to untangle his arm from B1's arm.
You must have seen a different play. I agree with Camron. B1's arms are straight up. How do you get your arms tangled with an opponent wh's arms are straight up?

B1 bent his elbow, held onto A1's arm by doing so and body flipped him. Not only should he have been ejected, he should be suspended the first game next year, if he's not a senior.
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I did not see the play live; I have only seen replays of the play in question. I would also like to make full disclosure: I am a Kansas fan and not an Oklahoma fan but that does not have any bearing on my response below.

What did I see? I saw B1 (Oklahoma player) behind A1 (Morgan player) and facing A1's back when their arms became entangled and A1 attempted to untangle his arm from B1's arm. Yes it looked bad but A1 was had a more advantagous position that B1. At best this could have been incidental contact that looked bad or a common foul that looked bad by B1.
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Mark, I respect your opinions, but when you say "At best this could have been incidental contact" are you saying at best for the Morgan State player? This was clearly a take down with the intent to do harm which was unacceptable in any sport (other than wrestling, judo, karate I suppose). Your'e right though, it COULD have been called a common foul, but most would agree FLAGRANT was definitely the best way to go.
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