Interesting statistic

[Juulie Downs]

Here's an interesting fact:

Fourteen teams in the women's NCAA tournament have perfect graduation rates - ESPN

Does anyone know what the stats are for all NCAA women's? For men's teams in the tourney? For all NCAA men's teams?

[BillyMac]

Degree Of Difficulty -- Courant.com

Making The Grade? -- Courant.com

http://www.minnpost.com/client_files...sNCAARates.pdf

[Adam]

Unless they've changed their calculations, graduation rates can be deceptive in men's basketball, especially at the higher level programs where players commonly leave early for the NBA or transfer to other universities (my understanding is that both of those situations will adversely affect graduation rates) and there are only about three or four new freshman each year on average. IOW, each defection has a pretty big affect on a schools graduation rate.

[Juulie Downs]

Thanks for the links, Billy!

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Unless they've changed their calculations, graduation rates can be deceptive in men's basketball, especially at the higher level programs where players commonly leave early for the NBA or transfer to other universities (my understanding is that both of those situations will adversely affect graduation rates) and there are only about three or four new freshman each year on average. IOW, each defection has a pretty big affect on a schools graduation rate.

They haven't changed the way it's calculated. As player is linked to the graduation rate of the first college they attend. So any player who transfers or drops out or leaves early to go play in the NBA counts against that school's graduation rate. There is an allowance for kids who transfer and then continue on to graduate, but the biggest effect is from the kids who leave early.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

They haven't changed the way it's calculated. As player is linked to the graduation rate of the first college they attend. So any player who transfers or drops out or leaves early to go play in the NBA counts against that school's graduation rate. There is an allowance for kids who transfer and then continue on to graduate, but the biggest effect is from the kids who leave early.

That's what I thought. If Jon D transfers from Big Time U to Met U, then drops out of school, that hits BTU's grad rate not Met U's.

And OJ Mayo, for example, will be hitting USC's graduation rate in a couple of years.

Also, I'm pretty certain D-1 men's basketball teams as a whole far outpace the general college population on graduation rates.

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Also, I'm pretty certain D-1 men's basketball teams as a whole far outpace the general college population on graduation rates.

you think so?? I'd like to see statistics on that...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

you think so?? I'd like to see statistics on that...

I would, too. I'd "heard" that general graduation rates are in the 60's. Any university that had a 60% grad rate over an extended period of time would be looking for a new athletic staff.

[Adam]

Okay, this site has some dated info, from 2002, indicating a 51% graduation rate within 5 years of entering college as a freshman. I haven't seen anything to indicate that rate has gone up markedly. I'm trying to find overall rates, though, for men's basketball teams at the D1 level.