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zm1283 Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:30am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 587947)
He never said you criticized "a" D1 official. Frankly, that would be better than a blanket statement such as yours.

Your insistence that you are right in spite of being shot down pretty easily on the football side is enlightening.

To say any sport is the worst when your perspective of that sport is only as a fan is not very credible.

I was "shot down"? Others didn't agree with my opinions about calls in the Super Bowl. I guess if that means I was shot down then so be it.

JRutledge Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:33am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 587947)
He never said you criticized "a" D1 official. Frankly, that would be better than a blanket statement such as yours.

Your insistence that you are right in spite of being shot down pretty easily on the football side is enlightening.

To say any sport is the worst when your perspective of that sport is only as a fan is not very credible.

Then he gets on his high horse about Bobby Knight and suggest he is clueless in the sport he officiating. But then goes on rants about a sport he does not officiate. :rolleyes:

Peace

Adam Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:49am

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 587955)
I was "shot down"? Others didn't agree with my opinions about calls in the Super Bowl. I guess if that means I was shot down then so be it.

By shot down, I simply mean they informed you how the calls, while perhaps debatable, were not awful. Who do you think I should give credence to, one or two guys who don't officiate football telling me football officials are the worst of the major sports, or football officials who tell me the calls the first guy bases his opinion on aren't that bad?

Adam Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:50am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 587958)
Then he gets on his high horse about Bobby Knight and suggest he is clueless in the sport he officiating. But then goes on rants about a sport he does not officiate. :rolleyes:

Peace

And the irony completely escapes him.

Welpe Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:55am

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 587953)

Yes. Not a high level but I have done it.

At what level?

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I'm not belittling officiating as a whole, but I guess that's your opinion.
No, just football officials. :rolleyes:

Adam Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:07am

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 587953)
Yes. Not a high level but I have done it.

I was a line judge in high school for our volleyball games. I was also a side judge (or something like that) for soccer while in college.

I've done it, but you won't see me claiming anything about soccer or volleyball officiating; because I don't know nearly enough to do it.

BTW, I'm not particularly proud of my association with metric football.

fullor30 Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:15am

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 587943)
Where did I criticize any particular D1 official? I just gave an opinion that football is the worst of the three major sports.

If you said the most difficult to call, you might maintain some credibility.

zm1283 Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:27am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 587969)
At what level?

Youth level. I never claimed to be a great football official, but I have been around it enough and played it at a high enough level to know quite a bit about it.

zm1283 Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:31am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 587979)
If you said the most difficult to call, you might maintain some credibility.

I don't know if it's the most difficult to call. I think basketball is probably the most difficult out of the three major sports. I think baseball is the best officiated, followed by basketball, then football. Baseball is also probably the easiest of the three though.

I don't know if this is true at all, but are NFL officials as a whole older than those in other professional sports? Does it usually take longer to move up in football so even the "newer" NFL guys are older on average?

Welpe Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:32am

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 587984)
I never claimed to be a great football official, but I have been around it enough and played it at a high enough level to know quite a bit about it.

The game maybe. The rules and philosophies? Not so much.

zm1283 Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:34am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 587987)
The game maybe. The rules and philosophies? Not so much.

We've already been over this, but I'll say it again: A lot of the stuff I was talking about wasn't because of rules knowledge or lack thereof.

JRutledge Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:35am

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 587984)
Youth level. I never claimed to be a great football official, but I have been around it enough and played it at a high enough level to know quite a bit about it.

Ooooooooooooooo, the "I played enough" line. :rolleyes:

Peace

Welpe Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:36am

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 587988)
We've already been over this, but I'll say it again: A lot of the stuff I was talking about wasn't because of rules knowledge or lack thereof.

Your lack of understanding of what constitutes both holding and pass interference would indicate otherwise.

OK, I'm done tilting at windmills.

zm1283 Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:43am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 587989)
Ooooooooooooooo, the "I played enough" line. :rolleyes:

Peace

:p:rolleyes::cool:;):eek:

I can use those too.

Adam Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:45am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 587990)
Your lack of understanding of what constitutes both holding and pass interference would indicate otherwise.

OK, I'm done tiling at windmills.

Careful, or M&M will post an image for you.


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