Short of time? Draw a foul!

hbioteach · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 10, 2009, 08:31am

The play as described is not a foul. Contact on a blind screen is not a foul. If the defender did not see the screener, it is not a foul!

JugglingReferee · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 10, 2009, 08:38am

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Originally Posted by hbioteach

The play as described is not a foul. Contact on a blind screen is not a foul. If the defender did not see the screener, it is not a foul!

Oh, really?

Forksref · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 10, 2009, 08:42am

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Originally Posted by hbioteach

The play as described is not a foul. Contact on a blind screen is not a foul. If the defender did not see the screener, it is not a foul!

Rule reference please.

hbioteach · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 10, 2009, 09:04am

Incidental Contact NCAA
4-40-5 A player who screened outside his or her visual field may make inadvertent contact with the screener.

Forksref · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 10, 2009, 09:08am

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Originally Posted by hbioteach

Incidental Contact NCAA
4-40-5 A player who screened outside his or her visual field may make inadvertent contact with the screener.

NFHS please.

hbioteach · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 10, 2009, 09:32am

Don't have the rules reference but check in rule 4 for incidental contact and screens.

You can't penalize a player for contact on a screen that wasn't seen if if the contact is violent. Discussed that very play with NCAA college assignor who observed that same play in a game earlier in the season. The officials no called the play. Assignor thought officials were right.

BktBallRef · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 10, 2009, 09:34am

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Originally Posted by hbioteach

Don't have the rules reference but check in rule 4 for incidental contact and screens.

You can't penalize a player for contact on a screen that wasn't seen if if the contact is violent. Discussed that very play with NCAA college assignor who observed that same play in a game earlier in the season. The officials no called the play. Assignor thought officials were right.

This wasn't incidental contact. The guard ran through and pushed through the screener. It was the correct call.

hbioteach · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Mar 10, 2009, 09:41am

Did not see the OP play. If the defender used arms to push through screener than of course its a foul is on defender. If the defender contacted defender and clearly did not see the screen then no call.

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