I use the "look" on players who decide they want to mouth off to myself or a partner...it's not a stare down, it's my "teacher look" that I have perfected after 20 years in a classroom with 7th graders. It works perfectly on those players who are standing at the brink of earning themselves a T and almost always causes them to step back and tone it down. Usually the coach will react to it also - I think the "teacher look" and the "mother look" are universally understood.

Two of my cousins had their mother as an elementary school teacher one year! Yikes! :D

All three of my sons had their mom (that would be my wife for the challenged ones amongst us) as their 6th grade teacher. She made me sign up for a time and come every time there were parent conferences!! She has a REALLY good "teacher look" that makes my bladder go weak at times.

You may want to read again

"Calling official has a foul and gives the hard, 3-4 second glare "I gotcha" look to the player as if he was caught shoplifting."


And yes, you had to be there, so it's probably not worth discussing unless you saw it all night. As I said, it's a minor thing, just my opinion, and all I'm saying is the glare/scowl wasn't needed. On occasion it is.

Whoa Jeff, come on back to herd fella. Stay on point, there was no mention of 'restore order'. It was choir boy nice at this game.

Precisely, it's not a look you initiate but a reaction to a previous action.

I do it many a time.

No need to be sorry, it was warranted. It's safe to say you don't do this when it's not warranted.

It's sad that you had to clarify this. :D

I think this is more about your preception of what took place than whether it is acceptable or not. Now I was not there and maybe it was not the best look, but if that is all the official did, I can live with that. You are not accusing him of saying anything inappropriate. If all he did was look (scowl or glare) I can live with this. And as I said this works for me very well. It sends the message I want to send and it usually stops the behavior and I have not said a single word.

If I am not on point, what are you suggesting the official do? Why is it inappropriate for an authority figure to simply look at a "student" when their behavior is inappropriate? Remember, you added all the "gotcha" stuff in the look. You or I have no idea what was said before and what was said afterwards. And even if that was the look, so what, the kid has not business popping off or acting like this is the NBA. Kids should accept the call and go to their next position.

Peace

Is this the "look" everybody is talking about?

http://graysmatter.codivation.com/co...ander_face.jpg

Probably more like this.

http://members.cox.net/bobby.ms/misc...ic-Thunder.jpg

When did I say you were not entitled to your opinion? That is why we are here right, to share opinions right?

There was no suggestion that the official got in the kids face. But if getting in a kid's face is a problem then what do you want officials to do when they want to talk directly to a player. I have had several times where players are doing the little "You push my hand, I am going to move your hand" routine. Do you think I do not say anything to the players or approach them? I guess I am getting in their face by doing this based on how you want things to be handled. BTW, the best officials I know have tools in their toolbox to handle situations without giving a T.

Once again, the claim was this was only 3 or 4 seconds long. Based on how it is taught by many clinicians (and since I am one in my state and this did happen in my state); it is encouraged that officials stay at the spot of the foul and not just leave. I know I have stood around longer at the spot when players hit the floor or to make sure I get the proper number when the foul is in a crowd. It is possible that the "scowl" was not an intentional act and no one has pointed it out to the official. Or it could have been a purposeful act to let the player know to knock it off or he is being watched. Without video none of us really will know for sure. It is possible that Fullor30 is reading too much into the situation. I know I have no problem being asked about things I do. Many officials I know come in and ask questions after the game (during the playoffs) so they can have situations clarified so they can learn. I know I do the very same thing when I watch games. I just think there is too much speculation without actually talking to the official.

On some level I feel they are unfounded. I feel that way for one I have never heard anyone suggest you cannot look at players (officials or camps that have much more information than I could ever offer at this time). And that is why many people here that are veterans have told you they do similar things or have seen the tool used. It just sound like you personally do not like the tactic (which is your right) but have not explained why it should not be used other than a personal opinion. That is why it is unfounded on some level to me (your words not mine).

Peace

Their behavior was not inappropriate, that's the point.

Rut:

My dad subscribed to the same philosphy the Bill Cosby's dad did: When he spanked me he didn't hit for accuracy he hit for distance, :D.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. More importantly though, is I agree with your entire post 100%

Are you saying the player's behavior was not inappropriate?

If that is what you are saying, how do you know? Did you hear what was said? Did you know what was said earlier?

Peace