OT - OSAA gone too PC?

[WreckRef]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Did a game last season - Girl's Varsity - where the home team fans in the first half chanted "Bounce, bounce, bounce" every time the point guard dribbled the ball, and screamed "Whoaaaaaaaaaaa" every time the "star" player had the ball in her hands, ala the "Cameron Crazies"...as the AD was letting us into the locker room at half, he told us he would "take care of that stuff"!! I asked him "Why?" and he felt that it was not "proper sporting behavior". So he made them stop.

Whatever.

Agreed. I don't see anything wrong with this. We did the, "Bounce, bounce, bounce, pass, pass, shot!" thing in high school as well as the old favorite, "Air ball!! Air ball!!"

We also used to yell, "Boring... boring... boring!" Unfortunately that was at our own team because we had Norman Dale for a head coach.

Originally Posted by WreckRef

Agreed. I don't see anything wrong with this. We did the, "Bounce, bounce, bounce, pass, pass, shot!" thing in high school as well as the old favorite, "Air ball!! Air ball!!"

We also used to yell, "Boring... boring... boring!" Unfortunately that was at our own team because we had Norman Dale for a head coach.

And Nebraska basketball fans would chant that back in the Moe Iba days. Ahhh...the days gone by....

[eyezen]

So this would probably be frowned upon in OR.

[JRutledge]

That is funny.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by eyezen

So this would probably be frowned upon in OR.

A picture of a guy in women's clothing? Nuh-uh. Just ask the Portland mayor.

[Tim C]

Mbyron wrote:

And this from the board's harshest critic of political correctness!

Obviously we disagree but please don't make my decisions for me.

You think this is a politically correct issue whereas I think it is trying to teach "the right thing."

Regards,

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Obviously we disagree but please don't make my decisions for me.

You think this is a politically correct issue whereas I think it is trying to teach "the right thing."

Isn't this the crux of the issue - legislating vs. teaching?

Isn't the governing body (OSAA) is trying to make the decision for you as what is acceptable and what is not? Why can't the school, teacher, coach and/or parent decide this for themselves, considering they have the direct contact with the sudent and the behavior, instead of that decision being made for them by someone that has no direct contact with any of the individuals involved?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Mbyron wrote:



Obviously we disagree but please don't make my decisions for me.

You think this is a politically correct issue whereas I think it is trying to teach "the right thing."

Regards,

I did not state an opinion, so I don't know the basis for your conclusion that we disagree.

I linked your remarks to the thread title. I did not thereby endorse the OP's standpoint.

[Tim C]

" . . . Why can't the school, teacher, coach and/or parent decide this for themselves, considering they have the direct contact with the sudent and the behavior, . . . "

What seems to be lost here is a definition of WHO the OSAA is:

The OSAA is made up of representative educators, superintendents, principals, coaches, teachers, and school board members.

The "OSAA" does not establish rules they are simply the independent organization that keeps the voluntary member schools in line.

It would be my view that the new "sportsmanship rules" were established by the exact people that you have mentioned in your post.

Regards,

[Adam]

Tim, is it a governing body with punitive authority? If so, it doens't matter how if it's democratically elected or the members are assigned by God in this case, as Joe the Principal at Average High School in Smallville, OR, can't make this decision and he has to follow the rules set forth by the OSAA. As you say, they "keep the voluntary member schools in line."

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Average High School in Smallville, OR

Doesn't matter - they didn't make the playoffs this year.

[WreckRef]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Doesn't matter - they didn't make the playoffs this year.

How do you not make the playoffs with Superman on your team?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by WreckRef

How do you not make the playoffs with Superman on your team?

Just ask how Michael Jordan did before he got a supporting cast.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by WreckRef

How do you not make the playoffs with Superman on your team?

"One Man Team."

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Tim C

The OSAA is made up of representative educators, superintendents, principals, coaches, teachers, and school board members.

It would be my view that the new "sportsmanship rules" were established by the exact people that you have mentioned in your post.

If that's the case, then why don't all the individual schools already have those rules in place?

And, you did leave out one very important person that is not included in the OSAA - the parent. And, isn't that who is ultimately responsible for teaching behavior?

I guess I feel legislation should be used for what the vast majority agrees upon. In this case, (as is the case many times), a select few determines how many should act, without a clear consensus. There is, for example, a clear consensus on racial comments. That is fine to legislate. There is not a clear consensus that reading a newspaper during player introductions is bad behavior. Therefore, that behavior should be left up to the individuals directly involved, not a quasi-governing body who quite probably has never even set foot anywhere near the school involved.