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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 02:54pm
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I'll take it a step further. I suggest that when a coach whines about a rule and is incorrect, he/she has to wear a dunce cap for the remainder of the game.
And they wouldn't even need a chin strap to keep it on, since their heads are pointed anyway.

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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 03:15pm
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1. Get rid of all the uniform rules that officials have to enforce during a game.
2. Get rid of all uniform rules that officials have to enforce during a game.
3. Get rid of all rules that turn officials into the fashion police.
4. Get rid of all officials who do not enforce the rules.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 03:53pm
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You're assuming coaches are flesh and blood creatures. I have evidence they are really aliens. Do these look like human beings to you?

That was a scary montage of coaches, errrr, aliens. If they don't bleed, then they ooze whatever it is they ooze. Still a sloppy mess in the end.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 03:55pm
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I assume you're talking NCAA.
I ref in New York - I keep forgetting that most of the rest of the country does not use a shot clock.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 04:00pm
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Sometimes I wish we had a shot clock in Houston...Slow the game down a little bit.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 06:27pm
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I don't see 2 or 3 extra fouls in 1 out of every 4 or 5 games as a problem.
If this were the problem, I wouldn't be on here. We have games where the team down starts fouling with 2 and 3 MINUTES left in the game. And its more than in 20% of the games -- more like 50-70%. Last year, a team down by 15 started fouling with about 2 minutes left, plus they'd saved their timeouts (which is fair enough), and the last few minutes of the game lasted close to 20-25 minutes. They damn near won, so coaches (at least around here) think this is a viable strategy.

I realize other ares may be different, but I don't think that's an argument against the idea itself. I propose a choice that may not be used in your area due to what you see in your games. But it sure would be used in mine.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 06:28pm
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This is not completely correct. All colors of pre-wrap are legal, they just have to match or fit the subscribed colors listed by the rulebook. But I have seen black, red, blue and tan pre-wrap.

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My point is that cream (black, white and primary uniform color) is singled out while a purple prewrap (worn by the home team -- even though their secondary color is purple) is illegal. Cream (and black and white) get a unique preferential treatment. The other colors must match a uniform.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 06:30pm
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If a team plays with 4 players (following a TO or substitution), then they continue to play with 4 until the next opportunity to substitute.
I like that. I also don't see why a team can't play with 4 inlieu of 5 if THEY choose to do that.....
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 06:30pm
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How about eliminating the long switch in two man mechanics

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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 06:45pm
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My wish list

Pie in the sky, but hey, I can dream like everyone else, right

1-17: Also include an 8 foot substitution box (a la the NBA) for substitutes to report to before they can enter a game.

2-11: Make the penalty for removing the official book from the table that of the NCAA.

4-10: Add language similar to NCAA to clarify that if an offensive player is between a player with the ball and the defensive player, No closely guarded situation exists.

4-12: Have team control match up with NCAA.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 07:17pm
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On the shot clock idea, I don't like it. I've seen scorer's tables that can barely keep up with the AP arrow and the game clock. Adding a shot clock would cause all kinds of problems.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 07:24pm
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JRut,
My point is that cream (black, white and primary uniform color) is singled out while a purple prewrap (worn by the home team -- even though their secondary color is purple) is illegal. Cream (and black and white) get a unique preferential treatment. The other colors must match a uniform.
Beige was chosen because it is (or at least was) the most common color sold. This color was chosen so teams didn't have to buy special pre-wrap to be properly equipped. I'm sure the committee was looking out for the not well funded school districts in making this determination. It's really not a huge deal as long as all officials apply the rule correctly.

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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 07:35pm
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Expand the coaches box to 28'. Don't allow the coaches to complain any more than they do, but if they are coaching, let them stand where they would like.
For many that would mean standing with one foot on the division line every time play moves to the opposite end of the court. I'm not against expanding the size of the box but I really don't see a need to.

I think that NCAAM should get rid of the alternating possession throw in. Jump balls can be used to start each half and to resume play after a held ball. Using AP throw-ins in HS girls' games makes a lot of sense, but it isn't necessary at the NCAAM level.
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Old Tue Mar 03, 2009, 10:33pm
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Not an expense a lot of school districts would like to add to their budget.
I live in Washington state, where the girls already have a shot clock, so I think we should add it for the boys and the schools would incur zero additional expense because all the schools already have the infrastructure.
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Old Wed Mar 04, 2009, 03:29am
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I think I'm remebering correctly...

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Not an expense a lot of school districts would like to add to their budget.
I don't know if they did this in other parts of the country, but in NYC, in the '70s, girls basketball had a 30-second clock. I would think the new clocks would be cheaper.
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