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Old Sun Mar 01, 2009, 02:46pm
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Player control foul on A1.

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Not enough information in the OP to make this determination.
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Old Sun Mar 01, 2009, 03:46pm
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Not enough information in the OP to make this determination.

Under NFHS Rules, A1 is sitting on top of B1. B1 is entitled to his position on the floor and A1 has violated B1's verticality.

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And yet, B1 does not have legal guarding position.....
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Old Sun Mar 01, 2009, 07:24pm
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And yet, B1 does not have legal guarding position.....

A legal guarding position has nothing to do with this play. B1 legally acquired a position on the floor before A1 landed on top of him. B1 can not exercise his right to stand up because A1 is sitting on top of him.

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A legal guarding position has nothing to do with this play.
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B1 legally acquired a position on the floor before A1 landed on top of him.
Based on the OP, there is no way you can know this.
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Old Sun Mar 01, 2009, 04:42pm
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Under NFHS Rules, A1 is sitting on top of B1. B1 is entitled to his position on the floor and A1 has violated B1's verticality.

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Just the facts. All we know from the OP is that "A1 ends up sitting on the back of B1....." This is not enough information to say it was a foul on anybody.
For all we know, B1 rolled/slid under A1 and cut his legs out from under him.
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Just the facts. All we know from the OP is that "A1 ends up sitting on the back of B1....." This is not enough information to say it was a foul on anybody.
For all we know, B1 rolled/slid under A1 and cut his legs out from under him.


B1 rolled/slid under A1 and cut his legs out from under him, then I would have a foul on B1 for blocking.

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Just the facts. All we know from the OP is that "A1 ends up sitting on the back of B1....." This is not enough information to say it was a foul on anybody.
For all we know, B1 rolled/slid under A1 and cut his legs out from under him.

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Game, set, match to JAR. He's got you, Mark!!!

Nice one JAR!!
Thanks, it was nothing. Thought he was just gonna ignore me. Some around here do that when painted into a corner.

But we didn't answer the original question in the OP. I.........actually don't know the answer.
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I actually don't know the answer.
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Old Mon Mar 02, 2009, 12:42am
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After further consideration, maybe I do know the answer. If we reached this point with neither player being whistled for a foul, then the contact was either ruled incidental or missed. So we proceed with the information we have. A1 is not touching the ball with any body part other than hand or foot. Therefore, unless he establishes a pivot foot and then lifts that foot and returns it to the floor, he is free to do anything: pass, shoot, start a dribble, even stand up
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Not enough information in the OP to make this determination.
"Let's go to the videotape". (Warner Wolf)
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"Let's go to the videotape". (Warner Wolf)

Okay, I am not the only one who knows who Warner Wolf is.

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Okay, I am not the only one who knows who Warner Wolf is.
Sorry.

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