I had to cringe...

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Did you notice if it was one official or the other making the TC signal?

2 of the 3 would do the TC signal for a PC foul, while the 3rd used the PC signal. Yes, the game was sloppy enough ALL three called PC fouls throughout.

Plus I should add that of the 2 that signaled the TC foul would give the TC as a prelim, and then do the PC as the reported. The other one gave TC as prelim, and then hesitated when giving TC as the reported, looking as if he was trying to decide if it was PC or TC. It just didn't look right.

[Adam]

I'm still finding the signal awkward. Maybe they are as well.

[M&M Guy]

RUW - In NCAA-W, the PC foul signal (hand behind the head) is no longer used; only the team-control signal is used for all player-control and team-control fouls. The philosophy is the there is no real difference; penalty enforcement is the same in both cases. So, perhaps one of the officials still works a lot of HS ball, or perhaps also works NCAA-M?

As to your general questions about the officials, you might think of it in these terms - community college and other juco leagues in NCAA are comparable to grade schools vs. HS varsity. A lot of times the officials in these leagues are starting out and are not as experienced with NCAA rules and mechanics, or there are assignors that treat these leagues as "not as important" as their "main" leagues. I knew of one assignor not too far away that assigned both women's and men's games in a particular league. He would assign some of his men's officials to women's games, just to have bodies to fill in spots. Of course, they were not as familiar with the women's rules and mechanics, so there were bound to be some issues such as what you witnessed.

So, think of it in terms of what type of officials you see in a grade school game. You might see just as many "less-experienced" officials as you do good ones. Then, as you move up the ladder (grade school to HS varsity, or juco to D-1), you will see more of the good ones.

[jeschmit]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

...would give the TC as a prelim, and then do the PC as the reported.

I seem to do this as well, only when it's a bang-bang play and I need to come up with something on the spot. If it's an obvious PC foul, when the defender has LGP for a while before the offensive player makes contact, then I might make the PC prelim as well. Usually I only do TC as a prelim and give the report as a PC. I know it's not necessarily the textbook mechanic, but it's what I feel comfortable with out on the court.