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Adam Fri Feb 13, 2009 06:16pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 579263)
Hey, Snaqs, that's how you do it! :D

<font size=1>(Yea, I know...I'll shut up now.)</font size>
"STFU" Dan_ref 2008

Scratch85 Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:38am
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 579263)
Hey, Snaqs, that's how you do it! :D

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 579274)
"STFU" Dan_ref 2008
Too funny! :D

BillyMac Sat Feb 14, 2009 08:20am
Inquiring Minds Want To Know ???
 
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 578855)
In Fed, the object is to score on your own basket. In FIBA, the reverse is true.
Does this have something to do with the metric system? And while were on international rules, why is it in soccer, called football in the metric system, the clock counts up, while in every other team sport, that I know of, the clock counts down?

BillyMac Sat Feb 14, 2009 08:27am
Is The Official Correct ???
 
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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 579255)
I thought there was some rule that if a shot goes off someones head it doesn't count?
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 579259)
If you can find that rule, let me know.
Ball hits A-1 in the head and deflects toward A-1's basket. Horn sounds to end the period before the ball enters A-1's basket. Official disallows the goal.

JugglingReferee Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:05am
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 579252)
A1 didn't attempt a try, A1 threw the ball. Iow, A1 was perhaps passing to A2 who wasn't looking, the ball bounces off A2's head and goes through the basket. It is still worth 3 points, even though there wasn't a try.
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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 579261)
I wasn't trying to make your point inaccurate, I was just trying to add a throw (not a tap or try) to your point.

Footnote: M&M gives a description of what I meant. :D
I have never ever had this play!

JugglingReferee Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:07am
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 579370)
Ball hits A-1 in the head and deflects toward A-1's basket. Horn sounds to end the period before the ball enters A-1's basket. Official disallows the goal.
Yes.

Was not a try for goal - therefore no basket. It is a goal in the case without the horn sounding because a live ball went through the basket.

The horn makes the ball dead unless it's a try/tap for goal, in which case the quarter is extended until it is certain that the ball will not go in.

That's my ruling.

JugglingReferee Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:08am
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 579367)
Does this have something to do with the metric system? And while were on international rules, why is it in soccer, called football in the metric system, the clock counts up, while in every other team sport, that I know of, the clock counts down?
Camron can best answer that! :D

BillyMac Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:37am
Let's Move On To The Bonus Round ...
 
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 579397)
Yes. Was not a try for goal, therefore no basket. It is a goal in the case without the horn sounding because a live ball went through the basket. The horn makes the ball dead unless it's a try/tap for goal, in which case the quarter is extended until it is certain that the ball will not go in. That's my ruling.
Good answer. Now let's change it up a little. Middle of the period, so no horn is involved.

Passed ball hits A-1 in the head and deflects toward A-1's basket. The ball is on the ring when it is touched by B-1. Official calls basket interference, and awards the goal. Is the official correct?

For extra credit:

Passed ball hits A-1 in the head and deflects toward A-1's basket. The ball is on it's downward flight, above the level of the basket, outside the cylinder, has a good chance of going in, and the ball is touched by B-1. Official calls goaltending, and awards the goal. Is the official correct?

BillyMac Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:39am
He's What You Call An Expert ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 579367)
Why is it in soccer, called football in the metric system, the clock counts up, while in every other team sport, that I know of, the clock counts down?
Mark Padgett: Does the clock count up, or does it count down, in croquet?

bob jenkins Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:41am
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 579410)
Good answer. Now let's change it up a little. Middle of the period, so no horn is involved.

Passed ball hits A-1 in the head and deflects toward A-1's basket. The ball is on the ring when it is touched by B-1. Official calls basketball interference, and awards the goal. Is the official correct?

Passed ball hits A-1 in the head and deflects toward A-1's basket. The ball is on it's downward flight, above the level of the basket, outside the cylinder, has a good chance of going in, and the ball is touched by B-1. Official calls goaltending, and awards the goal. Is the official correct?
Yes.

No.

just another ref Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 579410)

Passed ball hits A-1 in the head and deflects toward A-1's basket. The ball is on the ring when it is touched by B-1. Official calls basketball interference, and awards the goal. Is the official correct?
You mean basket interference? Then, yes, he is correct.

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For extra credit:

Passed ball hits A-1 in the head and deflects toward A-1's basket. The ball is on it's downward flight, above the level of the basket, outside the cylinder, has a good chance of going in, and the ball is touched by B-1. Official calls goaltending, and awards the goal. Is the official correct?
No. To be goaltending, it must be a try.

BillyMac Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:19pm
New Rule, Players Can't Ever Touch The Basketball, Never Ever ...
 
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 579419)
You mean basket interference?
Fixed it. Thanks just another ref. I don't know how that snuck in there.


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