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Scratch85 Fri Feb 13, 2009 04:10pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 579221)
Your post made me alter the mistake I made in my original response. However, your statement, although correct, is incomplete.

A person scoring on their opponent's basket (which is the wrong basket) was likely behind their own 3-point line. However, a 3-point basket can only be scored on a try for goal. Since shooting at the wrong basket is not a try (by definition), there can not be a valid 3-pointer when shot at the wrong basket.
Not completely accurate either. It can be a tap/try or throw as long as it is made in your teams basket. 5-2-1

Adam Fri Feb 13, 2009 04:15pm
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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 579224)
Not completely accurate either. It can be a tap/try or throw as long as it is made in your teams basket. 5-2-1
It used to have to be a try, which caused confusion on alley-oop passes that went in the basket. The officials had to judge whether it was a try or a pass. The rule change took that judgment away.

Scratch85 Fri Feb 13, 2009 04:22pm
I know JugRef and Snaq know this rule inside and out and we are all in agreement. It is not possible make a basket at your opponents goal and be awarded 3 points.

JugglingReferee Fri Feb 13, 2009 04:27pm
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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 579224)
Not completely accurate either. It can be a tap/try or throw as long as it is made in your teams basket. 5-2-1
Are you saying that I missed the case of a tap for 3 points in your own basket?

Scratch85 Fri Feb 13, 2009 04:31pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 579233)
Are you saying that I missed the case of a tap for 3 points in your own basket?
NO, I was including a throw. 5.2.1 sit C

JugglingReferee Fri Feb 13, 2009 04:38pm
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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 579234)
NO, I was including a throw. 5.2.1 sit C
No books with me at present; can you enlighten me?

Scratch85 Fri Feb 13, 2009 04:43pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 579239)
No books with me at present; can you enlighten me?
5.2.1(C) A1 throws the ball from behind the three-point line. The ball is legally touched by; (c) A2 who is in the three point area;

Ruling: (c) score three points since the legal touch by a teammate occurred behind the three-point line.

JugglingReferee Fri Feb 13, 2009 05:17pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 579241)
5.2.1(C) A1 throws the ball from behind the three-point line. The ball is legally touched by; (c) A2 who is in the three point area;

Ruling: (c) score three points since the legal touch by a teammate occurred behind the three-point line.
A2's touching does not end the try, so I fail to see how your point makes mine inaccurate.

M&M Guy Fri Feb 13, 2009 05:21pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 579251)
A2's touching does not end the try, so I fail to see how your point makes mine inaccurate.
A1 didn't attempt a try, A1 threw the ball. Iow, A1 was perhaps passing to A2 who wasn't looking, the ball bounces off A2's head and goes through the basket. It is still worth 3 points, even though there wasn't a try.

mutantducky Fri Feb 13, 2009 05:31pm
I thought there was some rule that if a shot goes off someones head it doesent count? If on accident yes, but on purpose don't count the basket?

bob jenkins Fri Feb 13, 2009 05:33pm
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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 579255)
I thought there was some rule that if a shot goes off someones head it doesent count? If on accident yes, but on purpose don't count the basket?

Well, if it's on purpose, it's pretty much going to be a T, I'd think. That would make the ball dead.

mutantducky Fri Feb 13, 2009 05:34pm
steve nash could do it. Maybe a shot for the Horse/Geico competition during All-Star weekend

M&M Guy Fri Feb 13, 2009 05:36pm
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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 579255)
I thought there was some rule that if a shot goes off someones head it doesent count? If on accident yes, but on purpose don't count the basket?
If you can find that rule, let me know.

Otherwise, use your head and just apply the rules. :)

Scratch85 Fri Feb 13, 2009 05:37pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 579251)
A2's touching does not end the try, so I fail to see how your point makes mine inaccurate.

I wasn't trying to make your point inaccurate, I was just trying to add a throw (not a tap or try) to your point.

Footnote: M&M gives a description of what I meant. :D

M&M Guy Fri Feb 13, 2009 05:39pm
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Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 579261)
I wasn't trying to make your point inaccurate, I was just trying to add a throw (not a tap or try) to your point.

Footnote: M&M gives a description of what I meant. :D
Hey, Snaqs, that's how you do it! :D

<font size=1>(Yea, I know...I'll shut up now.)</font size>


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