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Ref Ump Welsch Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:41pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 578107)
HS has been pretty tame lately.

Men's league last night: blue has the ball with seconds left in Q2. "8... 7... 6... 5..." And then there's a steal by white. "4... 3-2-1." White jacks up what would be described as a 4-point shot.

Tweet. Unsporting.
The old barking dog trick?

JugglingReferee Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:02pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 578120)
For what?
Simulating the end of a period.

Adam Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:22pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 578175)
Simulating the end of a period.
I'm confused. I thought it was the end of the period.

Mark Padgett Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:27pm
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Originally Posted by Man In Blue (Post 578099)
Next play out of the time out a player reaches and slaps the are of the defender.
I know you didn't mean "are". Did you mean "arm" or "arse"? :confused:

JugglingReferee Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:31pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 578180)
I'm confused. I thought it was the end of the period.
When white stole the ball, blue continued to count down, but instead of "3... 2... 1..." with the ellipses representing 1 second of elapsed time, they went "3-2-1", all within about a half-second.

That caused white to shoot the ball prematurely, when in reality, they still had ~ 2 seconds left.

There is no visible clock in men's leagues games here; the league doesn't get to use the HS clocks. They play running time 25min halves and stop clock in the last 2 minutes if the gap is < 16 points.

Forksref Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:44pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 578188)
When white stole the ball, blue continued to count down, but instead of "3... 2... 1..." with the ellipses representing 1 second of elapsed time, they went "3-2-1", all within about a half-second.

That caused white to shoot the ball prematurely, when in reality, they still had ~ 2 seconds left.

There is no visible clock in men's leagues games here; the league doesn't get to use the HS clocks. They play running time 25min halves and stop clock in the last 2 minutes if the gap is < 16 points.
If that warrants a "T", then I think you are looking for trouble.

eemich10 Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:45pm
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Originally Posted by richmsn (Post 578095)
not only warranted, but in a few years you'll find that this one was easy.
trust me, it was easy!

JugglingReferee Wed Feb 11, 2009 03:06pm
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Originally Posted by Forksref (Post 578189)
If that warrants a "T", then I think you are looking for trouble.
That might be true in other games, but not men's league games here.

Chess Ref Wed Feb 11, 2009 03:09pm
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Originally Posted by eemich10 (Post 578080)
I'm a second year official, working with a strong first year. G JV game. Visiting coach lossing by about 18-20 in the 3rd. Complaining about other official not calling any fouls (really not a rough game at all, just sloppy).

He loses his mind again, I'm trail in front of his bench. I tell him, "Coach that's enough."

He responds "I'll say when that's enough"

Bang.

First T.

Warranted?
No brainer. Automatic. Good call.

Raymond Wed Feb 11, 2009 03:20pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 578188)
When white stole the ball, blue continued to count down, but instead of "3... 2... 1..." with the ellipses representing 1 second of elapsed time, they went "3-2-1", all within about a half-second.

That caused white to shoot the ball prematurely, when in reality, they still had ~ 2 seconds left.

There is no visible clock in men's leagues games here; the league doesn't get to use the HS clocks. They play running time 25min halves and stop clock in the last 2 minutes if the gap is < 16 points.

Do you think maybe you left out a little bit of info in your first post? ;)

JugglingReferee Wed Feb 11, 2009 03:43pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 578206)
Do you think maybe you left out a little bit of info in your first post? ;)
I thought about it, but I am working at the same time, and was hoping that the ... and - would show the difference in the counting down. Even with a visible clock, there is no need to attempt to deceive. Just mho.

bbcoach7 Wed Feb 11, 2009 03:48pm
How 'bout now Coach?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eemich10 (Post 578080)
I'm a second year official, working with a strong first year. G JV game. Visiting coach lossing by about 18-20 in the 3rd. Complaining about other official not calling any fouls (really not a rough game at all, just sloppy).

He loses his mind again, I'm trail in front of his bench. I tell him, "Coach that's enough."

He responds "I'll say when that's enough"

Bang.

First T.

Warranted?
What an idiot. Whack him and ask, "How about now Coach, is that enough or would you like one more?" He wants to be the decider. LOL:D

Raymond Wed Feb 11, 2009 04:29pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 578222)
I thought about it, but I am working at the same time, and was hoping that the ... and - would show the difference in the counting down. Even with a visible clock, there is no need to attempt to deceive. Just mho.
Must be a Canadian thing. :D

Or is it Canadien?

Scrapper1 Wed Feb 11, 2009 06:18pm
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Originally Posted by eemich10 (Post 578080)
He loses his mind again, I'm trail in front of his bench. I tell him, "Coach that's enough."

He responds "I'll say when that's enough"

Bang.
Last month, I had a coach who didn't like a call. Gave him a brief explanation as I went by.

Him: "That was horrible!"
Me: "That's enough, Coach."
Him: "That was horrible!"
Me: "I've heard enough, Coach!" (Showing the stop sign.)
Him: "Yeah, I've heard enough, too. And that was horrible!"

Tweet!

After the game, my partner said how much he enjoyed the whole exchange. His favorite part was my two-fingered T signal. He got a kick out of that, for some reason.

So to answer your original question, good T.

Berkut Wed Feb 11, 2009 09:24pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 578300)
Last month, I had a coach who didn't like a call. Gave him a brief explanation as I went by.

Him: "That was horrible!"
Me: "That's enough, Coach."
Him: "That was horrible!"
Me: "I've heard enough, Coach!" (Showing the stop sign.)
Him: "Yeah, I've heard enough, too. And that was horrible!"

Tweet!

After the game, my partner said how much he enjoyed the whole exchange. His favorite part was my two-fingered T signal. He got a kick out of that, for some reason.

So to answer your original question, good T.
You are more tolerant than I am.

I really mean it when I say something like "That's enough."


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