Rhythm hop

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by shishstripes

Another one that I was talking to the coaches about and you see it in the boy's side more is on a lay-in, the first step is the pivot foot landing and second foot is a pivot. But often they will drag the pivot foot to slow themselves down and get under control.

Why no call?

This one sounds like a standard lay-up to me. Both feet off the ground the moment the dribble is picked up/pass received. The first foot that lands becomes the pivot foot. The second foot then lands as the pivot foot leaves the floor. The second foot then leaves the floor and the ball is released. The pivot foot then lands. No travel because the pivot foot did not return to the floor before the ball was released for a try.

Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

[hoopguy]

Have you ever seen Tyler Hansborough dunk off an inside pass? When he gets a pass inside for a dunk he normall does this exact thing and never is called for a travel. He catches the ball with both feet on the floor. Then takes a one two step and dunks. Never gets called. ACC refs must know not to call this. If I was reffing in the ACC I would not call it either.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

This one sounds like a standard lay-up to me. Both feet off the ground the moment the dribble is picked up/pass received.

I think this is one of the cornerstones of a lot of uncalled travels. A large percentage of the time both feet are not off the ground when the ball is caught.
If I cannot tell exactly when, I give the benefit of the doubt. But so many players now want to add something, a hesitation, a ball fake, even a 360 spin move. In cases like this it becomes very obvious that the player lifted both feet and returned them to the floor before the release of the ball. When you make the call, it erupts from every direction:

"HE GETS TWO STEPS ON A LAYUP!!"

[vbzebra]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think this is one of the cornerstones of a lot of uncalled travels. A large percentage of the time both feet are not off the ground when the ball is caught.
If I cannot tell exactly when, I give the benefit of the doubt. But so many players now want to add something, a hesitation, a ball fake, even a 360 spin move. In cases like this it becomes very obvious that the player lifted both feet and returned them to the floor before the release of the ball. When you make the call, it erupts from every direction:

"HE GETS TWO STEPS ON A LAYUP!!"

Well, OF COURSE he gets two steps on a layup! (If he's an octopus and has a 3rd leg acting as a pivot foot) But I agree with you. travel!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

If he's an octopus and has a 3rd leg acting as a pivot foot.

Mark Padgett has a third leg also, but I'll let him tell you about it.