I "T"ed up the score keeper.....

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

No misprint. I "T"ed up the score keeper for the visitors today. He's the guy keeping the book at the table.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

They're part of the officiating crew, not bench personnel. Remove the scorer drom the table, send him/her to the bench and use the visitors' book as the official book.

But you don't assess a T on the scorer.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Is this scorekeeper the official scorekeeper, or a representative of the visiting team that is permitted to sit with the table crew (for some reason that benefits V's record keeping)?

He wrote that it was indeed the visiting rep at the score table. The person was most likely serving as the 2nd scorer with the person provided by the home team being the official book.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

He wrote that it was indeed the visiting rep at the score table. The person was most likely serving as the 2nd scorer with the person provided by the home team being the official book.

That's what I thought... just wanted to be clear.

[GoodwillRef]

Is the visiting scorekeeper covered by this rule?

Basketball
NFHS
Rule 4: Definitions
Section 34: Players/Bench Personnel/Substitutes/Team Members - Article 2
Bench personnel are all individuals who are part of or affiliated with a team, including, but not limited to: substitutes, coaches, manager(s) and statistician(s). During an intermission, all team members are bench personnel.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Is the visiting scorekeeper covered by this rule?

Basketball
NFHS
Rule 4: Definitions
Section 34: Players/Bench Personnel/Substitutes/Team Members - Article 2
Bench personnel are all individuals who are part of or affiliated with a team, including, but not limited to: substitutes, coaches, manager(s) and statistician(s). During an intermission, all team members are bench personnel.

I would say no. Appears to me the intent of this rule is to cover those personnel who are traditionally located on the team's bench - not at the table.

PS - Rec game a few weeks back I had a scorekeeper and clock operator (one parent from each team) almost get into a fight. Man it was odd......I calmed them down - No T's!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Is the visiting scorekeeper covered by this rule?

Basketball
NFHS
Rule 4: Definitions
Section 34: Players/Bench Personnel/Substitutes/Team Members - Article 2
Bench personnel are all individuals who are part of or affiliated with a team, including, but not limited to: substitutes, coaches, manager(s) and statistician(s). During an intermission, all team members are bench personnel.

No. See rules 2-1 & 2-11.

[GoodwillRef]

I understand you rules references but he is not the "Official" scorekeeper.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I understand you rules references but he is not the "Official" scorekeeper.

I don't think you understand the rules references.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I don't think you understand the rules references.

Maybe he understands the references but has not used them.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I don't think you understand the rules references.

I think he understands the rule perfectly. 2-1 says that there is an official scorer. Singular. One. The visiting scorer does not seem, by rule, to be part of the officiating crew. 2-11 says the official scorer should compare records with the visiting scorer. It doesn't say the official scorers should compare records.

If the visiting scorer is not an "official" scorer, then he/she is a follower of the visiting team, who is allowed to sit at the table.

Personally, I wouldn't whack, but I don't think it's as obvious as you all are making it sound.