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AKOFL Mon Jan 26, 2009 02:36pm
My sit. was A1 dives on a loose ball, he lands on it chest first and is unable to get it with his hands. Momenum rools him across the top of the ball causing it to come to rest between his leggs, with him now on the floor on his chest. What are you going to allow him to do to prevent the kick ball violation.

bob jenkins Mon Jan 26, 2009 02:40pm
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Originally Posted by AKOFL (Post 572554)
What are you going to allow him to do to prevent the kick ball violation.
Immediately release the ball.

rlarry Mon Jan 26, 2009 02:58pm
Just an observation about all the situations saying the ball gets lodged between the legs. If im doing a game and a ball gets lodged in any part of a players body, I'm getting another ball to throw at it hoping to dislodge it.

BktBallRef Mon Jan 26, 2009 04:10pm
Okay. So if a women squeezes a man between her legs, she's striking him? :D

AKOFL Mon Jan 26, 2009 04:14pm
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Originally Posted by rlarry (Post 572564)
Just an observation about all the situations saying the ball gets lodged between the legs. If im doing a game and a ball gets lodged in any part of a players body, I'm getting another ball to throw at it hoping to dislodge it.
OK. Milk just came out my nose.:D I love it when a good sit becomes foder for the masses.

rockyroad Mon Jan 26, 2009 04:36pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 572629)
Okay. So if a women squeezes a man between her legs, she's striking him? :D
If you're in Hackensack, it sure is!!:eek:

fullor30 Mon Jan 26, 2009 04:53pm
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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 572498)
Reading everyone's posts regarding this, I think there's a misunderstanding. This OP isn't clear, but I'm going to guess the question is regarding player control for the purpose of calling timeout. But I'll wait for the OP poster to come back and clarify his post.

Someone asked me to research it. He only asked me if controlling the ball between your legs(watch it Padgett!) constitutes player control.

AKOFL Mon Jan 26, 2009 04:57pm
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 572655)
Someone asked me to research it. He only asked me if controlling the ball between your legs(watch it Padgett!) constitutes player control.
You need to be specific, because we have imagination. We can come up with allot of interesting stuff which will both amuse and confuse.:p

mbyron Mon Jan 26, 2009 06:21pm
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Originally Posted by AKOFL (Post 572658)
You need to be specific, because we have imagination. We can come up with allot of interesting stuff which will both amuse and confuse.:p
... and bemuse?

williebfree Mon Jan 26, 2009 06:44pm
On another thought
 
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 572678)
... and bemuse?
Lest we forget to diffuse this ruse?

Rodical Mon Jan 26, 2009 08:22pm
I'm going to....
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AKOFL (Post 572554)
My sit. was A1 dives on a loose ball, he lands on it chest first and is unable to get it with his hands. Momenum rools him across the top of the ball causing it to come to rest between his leggs, with him now on the floor on his chest. What are you going to allow him to do to prevent the kick ball violation.
eject him for making a travesty of the game :p

HawkeyeCubP Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:42pm
This is another example of where the NCAA rules are clearer and better than NFHS rules, in my not-so-humble opinion. The game is not meant to be played (as I now put myself in the omnipotent position of the creator and all-knower of basketball) by intentionally contacting the ball with a leg, just like the game is not meant to be played by people laying or rolling around on the ground (wheelchairs excepted) - both clearly defined as illegal in NCAA, but legal (laying on the ground and causing a legally moving player to trip and go down) or ambiguous (leg vice not clearly equaling a kicking violation) in NFHS.

Self-righteous rant off.:)

Bishopcolle Tue Jan 27, 2009 01:00am
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 572629)
Okay. So if a women squeezes a man between her legs, she's striking him? :D
I am picturing someone gently holding a baby.....Is that person striking the baby????

just another ref Tue Jan 27, 2009 01:34am
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 572629)
Okay. So if a women squeezes a man between her legs, she's striking him? :D
If he's lucky.

AKOFL Tue Jan 27, 2009 01:39am
To have player control, one of the criteria is to be "holding" the ball. It does not say with the hands. Question? Can you "hold" the ball with your leggs?


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